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** '''5B xx 236B xx 236S'''<br>''Basic combo from 5B and forward throw.''
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** '''5B xx 236C xx 236S'''<br>''Rage only. Max damage from forward throw/5B when in rage (without using WFT). Note that you're a bit too far for this to combo after back throw midscreen.''
 
** '''5B xx 236BC'''<br>''Easy combo or confirm into WFT.''
 
** '''5B xx 236BC'''<br>''Easy combo or confirm into WFT.''
** '''66B xx 623C'''<br>''Slightly more difficult combo from forward throw that does more damage than rekka, outside of rage.''
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** '''66B xx 623D'''<br>''Sideswitch combo, if you want to switch sides and didn't just back throw to begin with.''
 
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Revision as of 13:04, 14 August 2019

Shiki
色, Shiki

Introduction

Shiki is a relentless rushdown specialist, who can keep her opponents on their toes constantly between her great mobility options and simple, yet effective mixups from close range. She’s the most extreme of the rushdown characters in that she has almost no options from farther ranges, which means she has to constantly force her way in to apply her mixup game.

To achieve this, Shiki has access to some of the more unique tools among the cast. She is one of the few characters with a far special-cancelable button in 5B, which helps her neutral game immensely. Her teleports are fast and can be used as an alternate way of moving around the screen. Her SSM is also insane. It tracks anywhere on the screen, essentially giving her a free 65% punish on stuff most characters couldn’t even punish in the first place.

Playing the neutral with Shiki can be awkward, since she lacks range on her buttons and Shiki’s heavy slashes are very situational. While she is quite fast, she has no “get-in-free-card” she can abuse, so she is forced to bet the farm on a lucky jump-in or a reversal DP sometimes

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Strong mixup game
  • Great mobility
  • Arguably the best SSM in the game
  • Has to get in to deal damage
  • Awkward normals with short range
  • Needs to take big risks constantly

Data

Damage taken: 105%
Rage duration: 12 seconds

Version 1.11 changes

  • Max rage duration increased from 8s to 12.
  • Total damage taken from 110% to 105%.
  • 5B damage 80 to 90
  • 5C damage 220 to 240
  • 2B damage 90 to 100
  • 3K frames on block -28 to -14
  • Exodus stream damage 40, 50, 60 to 60, 100, 120
  • Exodus stream frames on block -25 to -15, -20, -25
  • Cloudburst damage 60 to 80
  • Lotus dance of oblivion is now an overhead
  • Lotus dance of oblivion frames on block -33, -28, -32 to -13, -17, -18
  • DP startup frames 12, 13, 13 to 9, 12, 13
  • Faster recovery on teleport (not sure of the frame data here)
  • Tartarus drop low kick on block -37 to -20


Gameplan

Neutral

  • n.5C, 5C, and a well-spaced 2C can all be recoil cancelled into 22A on block to remain relatively safe. This rarely allows you to punish your opponent's punish attempts due to the long recovery on the teleport, however.

Okizeme

Normal Moves

Far Slashes

5A
5A
SS Shiki 5A.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
30 Mid 6 - - -2 - -5 Yes Yes Yes No

Short range cancelable light. Good for stuffing approaches or pressuring up close. Combos into 623A at point blank.


5B
5B
SS Shiki 5B.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
90 Mid 9 - - 0 - -12 [-6] Yes Yes Yes No

Your main punish and neutral tool. Can be whiff cancelled into specials. Combos into 236A and 236B from basically any range and 236C while in rage. Also a very strong confirm tool for WFT. It's relatively safe on block when spaced and can be recoil cancelled into 22A for further safety.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


5C
5C
SS Shiki 5C.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
240 (160, 80) Mid 21 - - 2 - -16 [-2] No Yes Yes No

Shiki's longest ranged standing normal. Recoil canceling into 22A allows this normal to be kept relatively safe, so using it in footsies occasionally is not bad. Keep in mind many characters have normals with similar range that are faster, so you may trade with or lose to these normals often. This also combos from back throw midscreen.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


2A
2A
SS Shiki 2A.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
30 Mid 5 - - -5 - -5 [-8] Yes Yes Yes No

Crouching, cancelable light. Combos into 623A at point blank.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


2B
2B
SS Shiki 2B.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
100 Mid 12 - - -4 - -12 [-8] Yes Yes Yes No

Crouching alternative to 5B that does slightly more damage at the cost of some range and slower startup. Can be whiff cancelled into specials. This button also has some niche anti-air potential.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


2C
2C
SS Shiki 2C.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
150/150 Low 15 - - KD - -28 [-16] No Yes No No

A 2-hit sweep in which both hits knock down. Excellent for catching people walking back in neutral due to the great range, but very unsafe on block. If the second hit is blocked, it can be recoil cancelled into 22A for relative safety but this is easier to punish than recoil cancels from n.5C or 5C. Curiously, this normal isn't deflectable due to how low it hits, so it can be useful if your opponent likes to abuse recoil cancels into deflect.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


Near Slashes

n.5C
n.5C
SS Shiki n5C.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
200 (140, 60) Mid 15 - - -3 - -16 [-7] No Yes Yes No

Good close range heavy punish tool if you don't want to commit to rekka. Can be recoil cancelled into 22A on block for safety, but some characters may be able to punish this.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]

* All of Shiki's other normals are identical regardless of proximity.


Kicks

5D
5D
SS Shiki 5D.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
50 Mid 9 - - -8 - -13 Yes No No Yes

Low commit anti-air normal. Unsafe on hit, but cancelable, and can combo into 623S or 623K up close, so this is your best punish option if you find yourself disarmed. Otherwise, stick to 5B.


6D
6D
SS Shiki 6D.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
40 Mid 9 - - KD - -15 No No No Yes

Kick that knocks down on hit. Can be used mainly as an anti-air.


2D
2D
SS Shiki 66D.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
20 Low 6 - - 1 - -2 No No No Yes

Quick kick that is plus on hit. Can be used to check opponent movement and apply pressure up close.


3D
3D
SS Shiki 3D.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
70 Low 13 - - KD - -14 No No No Yes

Sweep that is slightly faster than 2C. Now far safer than 2C as well at only -14 on block. Still punishable up close.


Dash Normals

66A
66A
SS Shiki 2A.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
30 Mid 5 - - -4 - -42 [-7] Yes Yes Yes No

Animation is identical to 2A. Extremely unsafe on block. Combos into 623A up close.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


66B
66B
SS Shiki 66B.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
80 Mid 10 - - -6 - -35 [-10] Yes Yes Yes No

Animation is similar (but not identical) to 2B. Also extremely unsafe on block, like 66A. Your best combo tool after throw if you don't want to risk comboing into rekka.

[Advantage vs disarmed opponents.]


66C
66C
SS Shiki 66C.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
140 (50, 50, 40) Mid 8, 16, 26 - - KD - -11 No No Yes⁺ No

This is actually a very good normal in neutral. It's hard to punish on block (but not safe), and can catch far jumps and movement from quite far. It's also an excellent ranged punish due to the 3 hits.

The last hit is not deflectable, due to it being a kick.


66D
66D
SS Shiki 66D.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
60 Low 7 - - KD - -12 No No No No

Sliding kick. Decent for catching people standing from a distance, but since Shiki has no dashing overhead the mixup potential with this normal is very low. Much safer on block than 2C or 3D, though.


Air Normals

j.A
j.A
SS Shiki jA.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
30 High 7 - - - - - - - No No

Quick jumping light. This normal has the distinction of being Shiki's most downward angled jump normal, but stick to j.B or j.C.


j.B
j.B
SS Shiki jB.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
100 High 10 - - - - - - - No No

Forward hitting jump normal. This is faster than j.C, so if you react late it's a slightly better air to air option. Very poor for jump-ins.


j.C
j.C
SS Shiki jC.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
140 High 14 - - - - - - - No No

Shiki's best jump normal, by far. Great for jump-ins and air-to-airing, given it's very large horizontal hitbox. This normal is also relatively easy (by SamSho standards) to combo from on a grounded connect, and leads to excellent damage when doing so. This normal is rather slow, however, so if you're losing air to air exchanges switch to j.B.


j.D
j.D
SS Shiki jD.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
30 High 11 - - - - - - - No Yes

Despite how this normal might look, it cannot cross-up at all. Relatively useless, unless disarmed.


Unarmed Normals

u.5S
u.5S
SS Shiki u5S.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
50 Mid 5 - - +1 - -4 No No No Yes

Fast slap to the face. Not cancelable in any shape or form. Stick to 2D and 5D, or try to get your swords back.


u.2S
u.2S
SS Shiki u2S.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
50 Mid 6 - - +2 - -3 - - No Yes

Fast slap to the groin. Like u.5S, also not cancelable in any shape or form. Stick to 2D or try to get your swords back.


ju.S
ju.S
SS Shiki juS.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
50 High 5 - - - - - No No No Yes

Really awful jump normal besides speed. Use j.D if disarmed instead.


u.66S
u.66S
SS Shiki u2S.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
50 Mid 5 - - KD - -13 No No No Yes

Identical animation to u.2S, but knocks down. This is not a low however, so 66D is still preferable if trying to get a knock down for safe weapon retrieval. (66D also does more damage, for some reason and safer)


Universal Mechanics

Guard Break
Guard Break (Throw)
4/5/6C+D
SS Shiki 5CD.png
Neutral/Forward Throw
SS Shiki 6CD.png
Back Throw
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
Neutral/Forward - - - - - - - - - - - -

Universal throw. Best followed up with by 5B or 66B midscreen. (See below for combos.)

Back - - - - - - - - - - - -

Universal throw. Best followed up with by 5C, 5B or 66B midscreen. (See below for combos.)


Surprise Attack
Surprise Attack (Overhead)
5B+C
SS Shiki 5BC.png
Armed
SS Shiki u5BC.png
Unarmed
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
Armed 60 High 15 - - +0 - -16 No No No No

Universal overhead. Practically unreactable at 15 frame startup and can now be spaced to be + on hit, as of version 1.11. Decent tool to condition your opponent to stand along with 421S.

Unarmed 60 High 18 - - - - - No No No Yes

Universal overhead. Unarmed version has far better range and can be spaced.


Dodge
Dodge
5A+B
SS Shiki 5AB.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
- - - - - - - - - - - -

Universal dodge.


Counter / Blade Catch
Counter / Blade Catch
236A+B
SS Shiki 236AB.png
Counter
SS Shiki u236AB.png
Blade Catch
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
Armed - - - - - - - - - - - -

Universal counter. Allows you to follow up with a guaranteed attack of your own. The follow up depends on the strength of the attack you counter. If you counter a heavy slash or a dashing slash, your opponent will be disarmed.

Disarmed - - - - - - - - - - - -

Universal counter. While disarmed, your counter will disarm and knock away your opponent regardless of slash level used.


Rage Explosion
Rage Explosion
5A+B+C
SS Shiki 5ABC.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
0 - - - - - - - - - - -

Unblockable pushback attack.


Lightning Blade
Lightning Blade (Issen)
5A+B+C during Rage Explosion
SS Shiki Issen.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
- - - - - - - - - - - -

Has projectile invulnerability and anti-airs. Damage scales up beased on reamaining health.


Special Moves

Exodus Stream
Exodus Stream
236S
SS Shiki 236S.png
Exodus Stream
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
A 60 Low 16 - - - - -15 No No No No
B 100 Low 19 - - - - -20 No No No No
C 120 Low 19 - - - - -25 No No No No

Shiki's rekka. This is her main distance confirm and combo tool, and can also be used as an (unsafe) low threat in neutral. No longer unsafe on hit as of version 1.11, though still negative on hit.

C (Rage) 108 Low - - - -5 - -25 No No No No

In rage, the C version of Shiki's rekka becomes multi-hit, fast enough to combo from 5B or 66B, and does significantly more damage. It remains unsafe on hit, however.


Cloudburst
Cloudburst
236S after Exodus Stream
SS Shiki 236S-S.png
Cloudburst
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
Normal 80 [60] Mid - - - KD - -63~-65 No No No No

The followup to Shiki's rekka. Performs the same move regardless of the button used. As of version 1.11, you cannot be punished with an Issen if your opponent rage explodes after being hit by Exodus Stream! Thanks SNK.

[Damage when comboed from Exodus Stream.]

Rage (from 236C) 96 [72] Mid - - - KD - -63 No No No No

When comboed into from 236C in rage, the rekka followup also becomes hits multiple times and has increased damage. The version from 236A and 236B remains the same, only gaining the universal damage boost from your rage state.

[Damage when comboed from Exodus Stream.]


Elysium Halo
Elysium Halo
623S
SS Shiki 623S.png
Elysium Halo
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
A 100 Mid 9 - - KD - -39 No No No No
B 120 (80, 40) Mid 12 - - KD - -56 No No No No
C 140 (80, 30, 30) Mid 13 - - KD - -62 No No No No

Shiki's DP. The light version has no invulnerability whatsoever, the medium version is invulnerable to air attacks, and the heavy version has complete invulnerability on startup. Shiki's best anti-air and combo ender, other than rage-enhanced Exodus Stream. As of version 1.11, the medium version now combos from lights, buffing her confirm damage from her light normals.


Tartarus Drop
Tartarus Drop
623K
SS Shiki cl623K.png
Tartarus Drop
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
130 (20, 80, 30) Low - - - KD - -20 No No No Yes

This is a hitgrab that hits low, and not a command grab. Very unsafe on block. You must be extremely close to combo into this, but it can be useful in certain punish situations if you want to sideswitch your opponent towards the corner. You can also use this while unarmed as a punish in order to try and retrieve your weapon.


Setsuna
Setsuna
22S
SS Shiki 22S K.png
Setsuna
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
- - - - - - - - - - - Yes

Shiki's teleport. The A version teleports her backwards, the B version leaves her in-place, and the C version teleports her forward and can go behind the opponent. This teleport is only invincible while Shiki is invisible, leaving her very vunerable during the startup and recovery. Recoil cancel into 22A can be used to keep some normals safe, and doing teleport on your opponents wakeup can be used to bait out reversals or mixup what side you'll be on, as all 3 teleports look identical. Use sparingly, as it is very easy to punish if used improperly.


Lotus Dance of Sublimation
Lotus Dance of Sublimation
214S
SS Shiki 214S.png
Lotus Dance of Sublimation
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
140 Throw 27 - - KD - - No No No No

The grab version of Shiki's backflip. The opponent can jump or crouch to avoid it, and it has no tracking ability and cannot be steered. Since the grab can be avoided simply by crouching, you'll have to condition your opponent to stand with her overhead tools first if you're trying to land this. This grab also side switches on hit (like most command grabs in the game), so it can be unfavorable to use if it will throw your opponent out of the corner. It is very unsafe on whiff and can be easily punished on reaction with heavy slashes, in the case that it does whiff. As of version 1.11, the hitbox on the grab is expanded forward, so it is less difficult to space and land.


Lotus Dance of Oblivion
Lotus Dance of Oblivion
421S
SS Shiki 421S.png
Lotus Dance of Oblivion
Version Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
A 100 High - - - KD - -13 No No No No
B 120 High - - - KD - -17 No No No No
C 140 High - - - KD - -18 No No No No

The hit version of Shiki's backflip. As of version 1.11, this move is now an overhead, and all versions are a single hit, meaning that you will always get the full damage out of the move regardless of when it connects with your opponent. Since your opponent is now forced to stand to even block this move, this makes left-right mixups using it far more potent, and will condition your opponents to stand more frequently on wakeup, opening them up to other options.


Supers

Weapon Flipping Technique

Tenma Wave Cyclone
236B+C
SS Shiki WFT.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
348 Mid 14 - - KD - -40 No No No No

Shiki's WFT. Can be confirmed into from 5B and 66B for an easy disarming of your opponent. Despite having the same animation as her rekka, this is a mid, and not a low. You can be thrown out of this on reaction if performed raw, so be careful about doing such.


Super Special Move

Skandha Avidya
641236C+D
SS Shiki SSM.png
SS Shiki SSM2.png
Damage Guard Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Backhit Adv Block Adv Cancel Weapon Clash Deflectable Unarmed
620 Mid 10+19 - - KD - -45 No No No No

Shiki's SSM, which is available once per match. This super is incredible. Upon use Shiki summons 2 chains that will hit a grounded opponent from anywhere on the screen, starting an animation where she teleports to them and slices their chest open. The applications of this are endless. Anything that you can react to (or read) can be punished at any time for 70-80% damage. Careful use of this super will allow Shiki to always have a dangerous presence anywhere on screen, given that you haven't used the super already. It is also very safe on block if blocked from a distance. The one weakness of this super is its long startup; like other SSMs it is difficult to use as a punish on block to anything that is not absurdly unsafe. Additionally, you need to do this somewhat early if attempting to punish a projectile, as the projectile can hit you out of the super if it is too close when you perform it.


Combos

Midscreen

  • (5A/2A/66A) xx 623B
    Your fastest punish. Have to be very close for DP to combo.
  • (6CD/j.C)...
    • 2C
      Low damage but reliable.
    • 5B xx 236B xx 236S
      Basic combo from 5B and forward throw. Now optimal damage without rage as of version 1.11.
    • 5B xx 236C xx 236S
      Rage only. Max damage from forward throw/5B when in rage (without using WFT). Note that you're a bit too far for this to combo after back throw midscreen.
    • 5B xx 236BC
      Easy combo or confirm into WFT.
    • 66B xx 623C
      Slightly more difficult combo from forward throw.
    • 66B xx 623D
      Sideswitch combo, if you want to switch sides and didn't just back throw to begin with.

Corner

  • (6CD/j.C)...
    • 5B xx 623C
    • 5B xx 623D
      After forward throw in the corner you're close enough for DP and your hit grab to combo without dashing.

Videos

Colors

SS Shiki 1.png
SS Shiki 2.png
SS Shiki 3.png
SS Shiki 4.png


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