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After sweeping the opponent and flying, you can drop pillar on their wakeup, and by drifting back before the pillar you can be out of range of meterless reversals and pokes done out of shield. If they get hit by it, you can jump forward into a short air string into air throw or hime kick, while if they block, you have several options.
 
After sweeping the opponent and flying, you can drop pillar on their wakeup, and by drifting back before the pillar you can be out of range of meterless reversals and pokes done out of shield. If they get hit by it, you can jump forward into a short air string into air throw or hime kick, while if they block, you have several options.
  
Float forward j.AB and (if you’re low enough) fastfall 2A can both be done as true blockstrings. Fastfall 2B isn’t a blockstring, but can mess with people trying to standing shield afterward. drift down then drift forward j.B isn’t a blockstring but it can still hit before they can poke and offers an overhead option that can really mess with what the opponent thinks they’re seeing, since straight down movement offers a “fake fastfall” of sorts, turning their reactions against them; drift forward then down j.B gives you a faster overhead > low combination. Air dash j.BC isn’t strictly speaking safe against people mashing out of the pillar, but it offers overheads at different times and interferes with attempts to potentially fuzzy guard some of your overhead into low options. Drifting forward j.A j.[C] throw makes use of the short hitstop on j.A compared to other options to surprise the opponent with how early they can be thrown. And, you can double jump after your low j.B or j.C hits into an ''f-shiki'' j.A for one more overhead, going into j.236C.
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Float forward j.AB and (if you’re low enough) fastfall 2A can both be done as true blockstrings. Fastfall 2B isn’t a blockstring, but can mess with people trying to standing shield afterward. drift down then drift forward j.B isn’t a blockstring but it can still hit before they can poke and offers an overhead option that can really mess with what the opponent thinks they’re seeing, since straight down movement offers a “fake fastfall” of sorts, turning their reactions against them; drift forward then down j.B gives you a faster overhead > low combination. Air dash j.BC isn’t strictly speaking safe against people mashing out of the pillar, but it offers overheads at different times and interferes with attempts to potentially fuzzy guard some of your overhead into low options. Drifting forward j.A j.[C] throw makes use of the short hitstop on j.A compared to other options to surprise the opponent with how early they can be thrown. And, you can double jump or land and rejump after your low j.B or j.C hits into an ''f-shiki'' j.A for one more overhead, going into j.236C.
  
 
If they shield the pillar, you are still at advantage, however, you have to recognize the situation and react accordingly. Shielding it still leaves them at -1 compared to you, so there are no guaranteed punishes, and the fastest possible forward drifting j.A you can do hits them on the 5th frame they can act. Since you should be doing shield from outside the range where they can simply jab you, you have advantage against most things they could throw out, and if you believe they’ll read that you can also drift forward with shield and shield counter their poke. j.236C costs meter, but it beats anything they could do except reshield. There are numerous further mindgames that could be at play, but you’re more or less still at advantage, and you always have the option to fastfall dp if you really want to shut them down. Of course, since F and H moons have drastically fewer options out of shield, you’re pretty well off if shielded. You should be able to weave around shield counter fairly easily.
 
If they shield the pillar, you are still at advantage, however, you have to recognize the situation and react accordingly. Shielding it still leaves them at -1 compared to you, so there are no guaranteed punishes, and the fastest possible forward drifting j.A you can do hits them on the 5th frame they can act. Since you should be doing shield from outside the range where they can simply jab you, you have advantage against most things they could throw out, and if you believe they’ll read that you can also drift forward with shield and shield counter their poke. j.236C costs meter, but it beats anything they could do except reshield. There are numerous further mindgames that could be at play, but you’re more or less still at advantage, and you always have the option to fastfall dp if you really want to shut them down. Of course, since F and H moons have drastically fewer options out of shield, you’re pretty well off if shielded. You should be able to weave around shield counter fairly easily.

Revision as of 23:47, 13 February 2020

Synopsis

A monster of a character in neutral, F-Hime has incredible movement backed by an almost full-screen threat range that becomes truly full-screen when she has meter. She can transition smoothly from zoning to footsies to rushdown and adapt whatever playstyle is best-suited to shutting down her opponent, and she has the ability to not just seal the enemy meter for up to ten seconds but can reduce it to zero if they’re not half-moon.

While she’s dominant at neutral and strong on offense, she’s extremely lacking on defense, having both a very low HP pool and the worst pokes in the game up close, and she can’t jump away in the same way everyone else can due to her floaty jump. Still, her strong DP and godlike shield counter means the opponent can’t get too comfortable when pressuring her.

God-tier character.

Strengths/Weaknesses

Strengths Weaknesses
  • Dominant midrange footsies with gigantic normals, incredible anti-airs, geyser, and her unparalleled walk speed
  • Low startup run for burst movement in pressure
  • Attacks recover quickly and are hard to whiff punish
  • Not reliant on meter, but has extremely good uses for meter
  • Unique flight mechanic gives access to extremely hard to catch air movement and access to true air footsies
  • All specials except DP and first hit of 214B cancelable to EX moves and flight on whiff
  • High ability to confirm grounded hits from almost any range into a combo that grants meterless knockdown
  • Extremely strong okizeme
  • Gigantic DP
  • Shield counter is the biggest in the game by a wide margin and also +1 on block
  • Able to enter blood heat mid combo to regain all red life before using arc drive to seal the opponent’s meter for ten seconds and zero the meter of crescent or full moon characters
  • Combos off her longer ranged moves deal mediocre damage
  • Attacks all have lengthy startup, making it hard to poke out and making her prone to being counterhit
  • Very low HP
  • Fastest normal of 7F makes her vulnerable to close-up pressure
  • Very slow, floaty jump makes it hard to jump out of pressure and prevents you from coming down to punish moves that whiff under you as you jump
  • Entering flight has counterhit startup
  • DP is large but slow, making it vulnerable to safejumps
  • Any input errors made while in the air can cause you to enter a tumbling state where you cannot take any actions and fall very slowly to the ground and will most likely cause you to lose the round



Move Descriptions

Normal Moves

5A
MB FHime 5A.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
300 151.5 75% 3.15% Whiff HL 7 3 8 +2 -

Tied with 2A for Hime's fastest attack (outside B DP). Not as big as 2A, but cancelable on whiff and plus on block.


2A
MB FHime 2A.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
300 101 75% 2.7% - L 7 4 9 -1 -

Hits low and with large range and a slightly disjointed hitbox, but is not cancelable on whiff like most A normals. Still 7F startup so be careful trying to mash out of pressure with it.

With four active frames, it’s good at preempting large normals when your larger moves may not be fast enough, and it connects into 2C on counterhit for when you’re striking an extended hurtbox and chaining to 5B or 2B would whiff.


5B
MB FHime 5B.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
350*2 (621) 252.5*2 (441) 80% 2.7%*2 (5.4%) - HL 10 2,3 12 0 -

Moves a character length forward during use and hits far. Tends to whiff most crouchers but easily forces pressure on people dashing in and its forward momentum lets you go into 2B or 2C easily even at max range. Its forward movement and it being even on block make it good for pressure resets. Also a solid anti-air and anti-jump tool.

Only the second hit is cancelable, so it doesn’t whiff punish well.


2B
MB FHime 2B.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
500*2 (887) 303*2 (537) 80% 2.7%*2 (5.4%) - L 10 2,2 12 0 -

A low that hits twice with both hits cancelable, barely extends your hurtbox, and it’s very disjoint. A solid poke and a staple combo move, adding a lot of damage to any string you can put it in without it breaking.


5C
MB FHime 5C.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
800 505 90% 6.3% - LH 13 4 18 -4 -

Useful in standing combos and blockstrings for its significant forward movement. In neutral, 2C is almost always a better button to hit, being less vulnerable and hitting slightly further even with 5C’s forward movement, but 5C is a good punish for longer-ranged moves with lingering extended hurtboxes, like Kohaku 2C, since it’s all in one hit and gets a combo when canceled to 236B.


2C
MB FHime 2C.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
400*3 (1009) 252.5*3 (635) 80%*2, 65% 2.25%*3 (6.75%) - LH 12 2,2,2 14 +2 -

Extremely disjointed normal with three hits for easy hitconfirms. Catches people jumping by being air unblockable. Bullies slow characters. Catches people out of the air that have used their air options, and is tall enough to stop low airdashes. It's even plus on block, and it recovers fast enough that few characters have really whiff punish it. It’s also a staple combo tool and ender; this is how you get your knockdowns into flight oki.

Be careful about people jumping over it to start a combo if they have the read on you, though. It’s also not a great footsies tool vs other long-range characters since only the last hit is cancelable and if it hits an extended hurtbox only the first hit will connect due to the opponent shrinking back; if it counterhits this way, you’re still +2, but if not, it’s -8.



6C
MB FHime 6C.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
800 404 70% 4.5% - LH 12 5 23 -10 -

Pretty much only useful for combos. Launches on hit, and 6C into 236A vs close standing opponents sets up a reverse hit j.[C] and sets up the strongest combos that F-Hime has.

May have some minor use as a surprise extra hit after other C normals to catch people trying something, but 6[C] is way better for that.


6[C]
MB FHime 6C.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
1000 505 70% 9% - LH 19 5 19 -6 -

A combo extender. Can relaunch after using your jump cancel by using it after 2C and fly canceling, which is useful when you just need a bit more damage to seal a round or when you want to go into hime kick.

Less bad on block than uncharged 6C but still quite negative. If you input 963214A with good timing after it, you’ll get a jump cancel on hit and A elbow on block, allowing you safety and okay damage if you have meter to go into EX pillar. Elbow will whiff if you did 6[C] from too far, though, and this will basically always happen after a chain into 2C into 6[C], so be careful about when you apply it.


All of Hime’s air normals, except j.A, are whiff-cancelable to EX moves in addition to their normal cancel options. All of Hime’s air moves, if not canceled and not in Flight, lead to a lengthy tumble animation after them, during which you cannot take actions and are fully vulnerable.


j.A
MB FHime jA.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
250 101 75% 2.7% - HA 5 4 11 - -

By far Hime’s fastest air normal. Not large, but hits further horizontally than j.B. Is an overhead, and can’t be low-shielded, but not whiff-cancelable or self-chaining. Its low hitstop makes it useful for mixups while falling; also sets up double overheads.

Rising j.A is an unreactable overhead that hits all crouchers (except necos) and combos to j.236C, though it needs a 1 frame timing vs most characters (2 on wlen/tohno/nanaya, 4 on hime/wara, 5 on nero) to make it work and you lose momentum for whiffing it. Does not work vs necos.

After it fully recovers, you have a brief moment to input double jump, another normal, shield, or a special before entering tumbling state.


j.B
MB FHime jB.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
600 404 90% 4.5% Whiff to EX HA 10 5 - - -

Very vertical move. Hits people above you well during air footsies, though jumping at the opponent with it is rarely effective. Hits lower than j.A so air dash j.B j.C can pressure people at heights air dash j.A can’t.

Functions as an instant overhead, but only vs Hime, Wara, and Nero (2f timing). In MAX, you can cancel instant rising j.B with dash momentum into initiative heat and link falling j.A j.B to start a combo.


j.C
MB FHime jC.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
850 606 75% 6.3% Whiff to EX HA 14 4 - - -

Gigantic move that hits all around. back and forward hitboxes hit on the first two active frames, up and down hitboxes hit on the last two. Slow, but useful as a general poke, and the backward hitbox easily catches people trying to chase down your air dash.

Will come out as fast as possible if C is not held beyond the 3rd startup frame.


j.[C]
MB FHime jC.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
1000 808 current*.9 8.1% Whiff to EX HA 25 4 - - -

An untechable ground bounce on a move that hits all around you, comboing into pillar or into jump cancel air dash or in the corner sometimes even into flight > fastfall > 2A.

While you don't want this move to actually come out outside of a combo, holding j.[C] out of an air dash or flight movement causes you to quickly drop without putting out a hitbox, allowing you to do landing lows and empty IAD throws as an additional layer to your pressure and mixup.


j.6B
MB FHime j6B.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
700 404 90% 3.6% Whiff to EX HA 12 6 - - -

An instant overhead to cancel into j.236C. At 12 frame startup (not counting jump startup), there's more of a gap than with rising j.A, and it demands more specific spacing, but they still won't be reacting to it and, since it is a command normal, you can buffer it out of jump startup, so with its slightly larger hitbox there’s at least 4 more frames to hit most characters with it than j.A, making it a more attractive option for sealing games. Still does not work on necos.

The fastest startup requires you not hold B beyond the fourth startup frame, but releasing it before jump startup completes means it won't come out as a buffered action. Also, you won't get it if you're at 9 or 3, so it may take some practice to get consistently.


j.6[B]
MB FHime j6BBE.png
MB FHime j6BBE2.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
900 707 50% 9% Whiff to EX HA 12 6 - - -

Useful in some combos to lead into j.[C], but also as a general long-ranged poke, because damn, this move is BIG. Can catch people trying to do stuff on wakeup after a high air throw in flight, and it’s especially useful out of air backdash when people are chasing you, and its combination of momentum stall plus large hitbox plus whiff cancel to EX pillar or flight lets you make your air movement a bit trickier.

If fairly low to the ground (from about the height you get for doing it out of a standing jump or lower), counterhit j.6[B] fly cancel fastfall 236X is a combo starter vs standing opponents for some reason. Otherwise, try to drift towards them with j.B on counterhit or just go into EX Pillar.


Shield Counter
D > 236D
MB FHime SC.png
What is it that you wish for?
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
500 (345) 303 (209) 50% 4.5% - HLA 9 4 14 +1 1-12 strike
  • damage and red damage values in parenthesis account for shield adding 30% reverse penalty when canceling to any action.

Most F-Moon characters’ shield counters are not notable beyond the simple utility they have as shield counters, but that can’t be said for Hime. Hers is gigantic and demands the enemy put in work to space around it, its total duration is a tiny 26 frames (usually -4 from 4 of it happening while the opponent is still in shield stun) making it usually fine to miss, and it’s +1 on block. Not a damaging starter, but leads into basically any combo route you could want. Ridiculous move.


Air Shield Counter
j.D > j.236D
MB FHime jSC.png
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
500 (345) 303 (209) 50% 4.5% - HLA 9 4 14 +1 1-12 strike
  • damage and red damage values in parenthesis account for shield adding 30% reverse penalty when canceling to any action.

Less applicable than ground shield counter, as air shield is generally much more dangerous to use, and it’s not nearly as large, but in some matchups you can shield something high and just wait for the right time to spring this and suddenly be invulnerable while falling to the ground, and it does make people think twice about dialing into anti-airs, so using it sparsely keeps the opponent on their toes, especially since it leads into all the same stuff you can get off of normal shield counter.<

Hime gains a normal person’s gravity after use and quickly hits the ground, where she can act immediately, allowing fairly easy followups.


Special Moves

Sky (flight)
22D / j.22D
MB FHime 22D.png
what hurtbox
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
- - - -0.1% per frame - - 12 (16) - 26 (30) - -

Also known as flight. Ground version has 4 frames of jump startup after which is identical to air version. Interruptible on frame 13 (17) with attacks and shield, on frame 23 (27) with jump, on frame 26 (30) with fastfall, otherwise allows movement on the 27th (31st) frame.

Hime ascends and hovers freely in the sky for up to four seconds, after which you will enter tumble state and fall to the ground. (This tumble state is interruptible with most actions, but not air dash.) After entering flight, your meter drains at a rate of 0.1% per frame (6% per second) until you land or get hit, even if your four seconds have expired, although you will not end flight early if you run out of meter. You can hover in place, or drift left (and slightly down), right (or slightly down), or straight down, and you can quickly transition between them just as you’d shimmy on the ground. Normals done out of flight keep your momentum in that direction, but start gravity back up upon use. You can also fastfall by entering 22 again, which will quickly shoot you to the ground and let you act the instant you touch ground.

In addition to defining her air gameplay, Flight also defines her okizeme; mixing up drifting double overheads, fastfalls lows, drifting down and then forward with j.B, and simply doing air dash strings enables you to do multi-layered offense against cornered opponents with no good way to fuzzy guard it all, and much of it can be done as a blockstring from 22A or j.236A. If the opponent is midscreen, drifting past the opponent makes Hime immediately face back towards them, allowing you to break crossup protection, adding additional layers to mixup.

Flight is treated as an EX move, so all air normals except j.A and all specials except DP and 1st hit 214B are cancelable to it on whiff, and all normals and specials (except DP and 1st hit 214B) are cancelable on hit or block, more or less allowing you to just do whatever you want. The first 4+26 frames of flight have Hime in a counterhit state.

Entering flight will return your air dash to you if you have already used it up. This includes if you entered flight already, air dashed, got hit, teched in the air, and used 22D again before landing. If you’ve left hovering state, whether by using a floating attack or by jumping or air dashing out of it, using j.236A/B will return you to hovering state if four seconds have not elapsed since flight’s startup ended.

To hover forward while using j.B without it coming out as j.6B, enter it as j.3B.

Drifting in any specific direction has one frame of startup where you don’t move and no other actions are registered, and a move input on the frame after that will take priority over movement, giving you a hovering action rather than a drifting one; take care to avoid this as it’s rare that this is what you want.


Wave
236A/B
MB FHime 236A.png
236A hits high
MB FHime 236B.png
236B hits far
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
1000, 100*2 (1106) 707, 68.68*2 (780) 65% 6.3% + .63%*2 (7.56%) EX L 10 3 25 -17 -

A Geyser is significantly larger than B geyser, but hits up close. Great for combos, and it makes a pretty good anti-air, smashing the area many people want to come in at you from, but just as minus on block as 236B and leaves the opponent right next to you; don’t use this if the opponent is on the ground and not already in a combo.

Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
1000, 100*2 (1106) 707, 68.68*2 (780) 65% 6.3% + .63%*2 (7.56%) EX L 10 3 25 -17 -

F-Hime’s famous B Geyser. Big, low, air unblockable, hits at a distance, punishes things and starts combos; sometimes usable if you just think they might flinch. Jump-cancelable on hit, but a staggering -17 on block - if you use it wrong, you’re giving up your turn vs almost every character in the game. Some characters can moves that punish even far 236B on block, and while vs those hard punishes you can usually play a funny minigame of fly cancelling it and coming down on sweeps or shielding beams and using EX Pillar, there are a few guaranteed punishes; immediate fly cancel still puts you at -8, and (for example) C Ciel 236C is 8f startup. Disregarding hard punishes, there’s little you can do about people running right at you after blocking it. But even so, it’s a truly great move if applied well no matter who you’re facing, and there are a few characters slow enough that they just can’t do anything about it.

Avalanche
236C
MB FHime 236C.png
you probably got this messing up tk ex pillar
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
300/hit (2687 w/ 8) 303/hit (1624 w/ 8) current*.95/hit -100% - L 11+5 48 82 total duration - -

The EX version of geyser makes a giant series of waves that will carry your opponent to the other side of the screen even on block. Generally hits up to 8 hits depending on screen position, tho if you get hit and run forward to chase it can hit more; you can start a combo this way spacing is favorable. Still air unblockable, but they can shield on reaction to the flash, and it doesn’t lead to much if it doesn’t trade.

Relaunches an OTG opponent. This is normally useless, but if you throw them towards the corner while close to/in the center, you can link it to 236B into j.[C] for a combo that does very little damage but gives you real oki. Avalanche must hit at least 7 times (ideally 8) for this to work; see #Advanced_combos for more on this.

Not really a bad move in a vacuum, but Hime generally has better things to spend meter on.

Regardless of how many times it hits, it does not contribute to internal hitcount for gravity and meter scaling. If you somehow combo off of it, this is very good, but linking it into arc drive after a throw in an attempt to jack up the hit count real quick doesn’t accomplish anything.


Bird
623A/B
MB FHime 623A.png
A reasonable anti-air
MB FHime 623B1.png
MB FHime 623B2.png
This dp scrapes the sky
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
700, 250*2 (1147) 303, 101*2 (482) 100% 3.6%, 0.9%*2 (5.4%) - LH 8 7 23 -13 -

Hime’s A DP has no inv and starts up slower than her B DP, but its hitboxes are larger and it only swings once so it’s over much faster. Of Hime’s anti-airs, it’s the hardest to apply, but if it counterhits at its tip you can get a combo that scales quite well, and it is her best at just catching the area directly above without committing to B DP. It’s still bad on block and uncancelable, though.

Also sees gimmick use as a feint because it looks exactly like the first swing of B DP.

Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
700*2, 400*2 (1944) 404*2, 202*2 (1075) 100% 3.6%*2, 1.8%*2 (10.8%) - LH 6 3,4 (12) 7 29 -17 (-33 vs crouch) 1-9

Hime’s DP is one of the better DPs in the game, and it’s certainly the largest, continuing afterward with a second swing that is still air unblockable and difficult to play around for airborne opponents. The hitbox is quite small until it loses its inv, but it tends to work out anyway, having large hitboxes and still doing well on trade.

There’s a large gap between the first and second swings that can be exploited by people explicitly baiting it, though, and if this move is blocked, the opponent can really do whatever they want to you. But even so, as a DP on a character with very slow pokes, its value cannot be understated.

Great Bird
623C
MB FHime 623C.png
EX DP would probably be pretty good if it, like, worked. shame about that
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
500*5, 700 (2637) 404*6 (2011) 100% -100% - L 1+5 7 (8) 6 (18) 6 82 total duration -83 (-97 vs crouch) 1-73

Hime’s EX DP is, simply put, terrible. Not faster than B DP, even more punishable on block, and this time with a super flash to react to. You’d want it to be a move to cancel things to as people jump at you or who hang in the area above you, but unfortunately it almost never fully hits correctly unless the first hit hits a standing opponent, and if they fall out, they can punish you on hit.

It is fully invulnerable until well after the final hit, so it can see use if you need the inv to get through disjointed oki or something and they have low enough life that them falling out won’t be a problem. Still, though, if you have a hard callout to make that would justify this move over B DP, 99% of the time you should just use her shield counter and forget this move even exists.

Only punishable in the air. Last hit is air blockable (lol)


Sigh
j.236A/B
MB FHime j236A.png
MB FHime j236B.png
Getting in their way
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
800*3 (1470) 505*3 (926) 50% 4.5%*3 (12.5%) EX LHA 34 19 59 total duration (flying) +16 (flying), +7 (TK) -

Pillar. In recovery until landing unless you’re flying once it goes active; also in recovery until landing if flight timer expires midway through the move. Puts you back in hover state if flying.

A Pillar is useful in movement for a brief pause and some harassment before fly-canceling it. It’s slow, so you don’t usually throw it out expecting it to hit, but it’s something they have to deal with and it periodically catches an anti-air or a jump-in, confirming to EX pillar or in some situations a very short air string into air throw or hime kick. B Pillar is just like A Pillar, but spawns much further out; It can harass people who like hanging out far away, but is much more niche in its use in movement and neutral. Both versions will spawn at the edge if range says they’d spawn off-stage, so they act the same when the opponent is cornered.

Also sets up some of Hime’s setplay; with pillar over them on their wakeup and you in flight and spaced outside of DP range, you can blockstring into drifting normals at various heights and timings, and at some heights you can even blockstring to fastfall low before they’re out of blockstun (though, you need to buffer fastfall early so that the input is out of the buffer by the time you land and you don’t get 22A), and if they get hit by it you can easily confirm a combo. Even if they shield it, it becomes a minigame if your favor as C moon weighs their options against your j.236C, fastfall block, fastfall DP, and your own air shield vs anti-air normals, while H or F have no options that don’t lose to air shield counter (except for doing nothing or doing unshieldable anti-air command grabs and arc drives.)

Cancelable with flight as early as frame 38, and the pillar will continue its active frames if canceled. This allows you to start doing an attack as early as frame 50, essentially cutting 10 frames off the recovery relative to if you were already flying, though you can’t move as soon this way as if you were already flying.

Breath
j.236C
MB FHime j236C.png
You flinched.
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
450*13 (2329) 353.5*13 (1825) 50% -100% - LHA 6+3 64 81 total duration (flying) +15 (flying), +11 (TK) 6, 19-21, 46-48

A tracking beam spawning directly on top of the opponent leading to a techable knockdown, giving you a tech trap situation in most any situation and, if you’re close enough, forcing the opponent to guess between you going for flight oki or you waiting to tech trap them. Hitting full screen in 9f from air, 13f from TK, this move whiff punishes a wild amount of things and forces the opponent to consider their options. Also fairly good to go into vs people jumping at you, since it’s guaranteed to come out if you aren’t hit out of it in the first five frames, especially if you’re canceling into it.

Also acts as a combo ender when you can’t go into air throw or hime kick. You can OTG with it after an air throw while flying, which is the highest damage ender Hime has outside of AAD and is good for sealing games. If you are in flight, you can cancel the freefall afterward with double jump, air dash, or any attack, allowing for a variety of tricky setups, although you cannot use flight’s drifting movement directly out of it.

It’s also plus on block and safe (-4) on shield if TK’d, even on shield if flying, allowing it to be used in a variety of setups. With all it has going for it, you may be tempted to just throw it out wildly, but savvy opponents can shield it on reaction if they haven’t committed to anything, and going down 100 meter while they’re up 58.5 meter for shielding is pretty bad even if you’re not at frame disadvantage; Hime isn’t meter-hungry, but you shouldn’t be wasteful. Grounded opponents can also backdash through, and C/H characters with rolling dodges can use those to get an easy punish against you. Even so, it’s an excellent move, and applying it with surgical precision can easily cement your victory.

You can’t combo after EX Pillar under most circumstances, but only the final hit applies this effect, so if they dodge the pillar and stick a hurtbox in, you can.

Mysteriously has inv at a few scattered times throughout the move.


Comet
214A/B
MB FHime 214A.png
MB FHime 214AX.png
Pressure tool
MB FHime 214A.png
MB FHime 5C.png
Combo move and gimmick mixup
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
800 404 80% 4.5% EX LH 10 8 18 -7 -
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
- - - - - - - - 19 total duration -2 -

Kind of a gimmick move that adds an occasional extra layer to your pressure. As Elbow’s hitbox advances forward, it usually won’t hit on the first frame, and hitting on the last frame is even on block, which will happen after (for instance) a close 5B 2C 214A if they don’t EX guard. You can discourage mashing against this by using its sometimes using its followup by tapping a button to teleport back, which will consistently put you at -2 if done during hitstop but will also put you at ideal 236B range, (or 5C range if done from deep in the opponent), allowing for an easy punish vs people mashing. You can also EX cancel or IH once it hits the active frames, before it hits, and using IH during travel before it hits into a throw into arc drive can catch the opponent off guard for great reward. But, you don’t really get anything if the elbow itself hits.

Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
800 404 80% 4.5% - LH 12 8 19 -8 -
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
700 404 60% 4.5% EX LH 29 5 17 -4 1-8

B elbow is primarily a combo tool. It launches on hit and isn’t EX cancelable, although its followup is; rather than teleporting back, Hime teleports forward, behind the opponent if they’re not cornered, and does a wallbouncing slam. You can use this to claim the corner with your back to the wall after a close 2C, linking to 236X, or you can use it relaunch a cornered opponent.

It also serves as weak mixup midscreen. The teleport hit is slow, but not immediately apparent, and hits as a crossup. Although B elbow is slower than A elbow, it has an identical beginning animation; it simply has no hitbox during the initial travel frames, instead traveling longer, so if they’re used to your 214A game, 214BX may be catch them off guard, and it’s only -4 on block and puts you out of range of throws and all 4f normals. Still, they can mash before it hits, and they may already want to mash vs elbow, so use it sparsely. If used near your own corner, you can combo to 236B like you would in a side-switch combo; midscreen you can fly cancel and ex pillar.

Meteor
214C
MB FHime 214C.png
Get out of jail free
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
700, 400, 700, 1000 (2414) 505, 252.5, 303, 606 (1572) 100% -100% - LH 3+5 8 15 total duration -4 5-15

Moves far forward. Not inv on startup, but inv while traveling; a reliable punish for many midscreen things, and gets you under a lot of things while recovering quickly and giving you plenty of options for your next move. Gives knockdown on hit and lets you meaty but doesn’t give strong oki. In particular, it cuts through EX projectiles on reaction to the flash very well.

Because it goes inv long before any or her normals would go active and because it hits very far forward, you can often treat it as a 5F startup long-ranged poke for the purposes of escaping pressure. However, it’s minus on block from up close, and although you usually have at least a little travel time, it is shield / ex guard bait if done standalone.

Very safe on block canceled from 22A/B with the sparks covering you, and it can sometimes even get you a throw on shield if spaced and timed right as the sparks lock them into additional shield frames. If they jump 22A/B and you cancel to this, they might find you’re suddenly somewhere else and in a position to use an air unblockable 236X or 623B, making this sort of setup a reasonable use of meter against most characters if you’re in MAX, or you want to shed meter to avoid entering MAX.


Light
22A/B
MB FHime 22A.png
Keeping up the pressure
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
500*3 303*3 75% 2.25%*3 EX LHA 52* - 80 total duration - -

22A/B - “Light” Creates three sparks in the air at varying times that generate behind Hime and then move forward. If the opponent hits you, the sparks go away. A moves at a slightly downward angle, B moves at a slightly upward angle. EX cancelable. Sparks generate frame 22, 32, 42, and activate frames 52, 62, 72. go active First cancelable frame 25. Canceling on a frame a spark would generate still generates that spark, and it will activate as usual 30 frames later.

Although the opponent can run up and hit you before it goes active in neutral, if you have meter, this is disincentivized; canceling to 214C will blow them up for trying and generally be advantage on block or shield if timed well, and if the opponent would want to punish with a quick and large EX move, if you’re in MAX, you can hold back and hit A+B+C to IH after the flash and block, and then the sparks will hit them and let you dial into arc drive.

As oki, fly-canceled light timed so spark hit meaty lets you act before your opponent stands so they can’t dial into large supers like they can vs pillar, shielding is a worse options, and you have more time to work stuff on block; however, you also can’t react to whether they got hit or not before you go into your action, greatly limiting potential confirms.

If they jump at you and you cancel Light to 214C and they land into Light, they have to block it what would normally be incorrectly (by holding towards Hime), because the sparks comes at them from the same direction Hime is facing and Hime is on the ground and the game misinterprets this as meaning that no crossup has occurred.

Beyond the meter they gain on hit and block, generating the sparks gives you meter. The first spark gives 2.7 meter, the second gives 3.6 meter, and the third gives 4.5 meter, for a total of 10.8 if not interrupted.

Radiance
22C
MB FHime 22C.png
Establishing the lockdown
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
500*7 303*7 75% -100% + 2.25%*7 - LHA 1+21* - 56 total duration - 1

Creates seven sparks in the air over a long time frame. Hime recovers before the final ones activate, letting her take action under their cover. Sparks created by Radiance don’t go away when Hime is hit, though no more will be generated if she’s hit. Sparks generate on frames 2, 12, 27, 37, 52, 59, 66, and go active 22, 33, 47, 57, 73, 79, 86; Because Hime is inv frame 1 and the first spark generates on frame 2, in some cases it can act as a weak reversal that accepts a hit in order to return to neutral (though the first spark won’t hit crouching opponents, so don’t try it against normal oki pressure).

Probably Hime’s best move in neutral for the purposes of shedding meter to avoid MAX or to just throw out if MAX time is nearly over; there’s just not much the opponent can really do to get advantage out of you using it, regardless of the game state, and them blocking it means you now have pressure and a mixup opportunity. Especially effective to throw out over a knocked down opponent when you couldn’t otherwise guarantee a setup, such as after EX Pillar or a midscreen throw.

If the opponent is committed to blocking, you can get a rising overhead j.A in on them and the sparks that continue generating behind you will then hit and launch the opponent for a short combo of j.A (spark) j.BC dj j.BC air throw or hime kick. You lose pressure if you don’t get the j.A, though, so it’s maybe a weak option except against Tohno/Nanaya/WLen/Hime/Nero/Wara.

Despite being an EX move, Radiance sparks still give Hime meter on hit or block, and are not affected by the EX move meter gain penalty, giving the same amount per spark as Light does; if they block all 7, you get back 13.3.


Take this!
j.63214C
MB FHime j63214C.png
Hime Kick
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
1400, 700*4 (2331) 1020, 454.5*4 (1591) current*.6 -150% - H 1+9 4 until landing - 1-13

Hime Kick.

Fully invulnerable through the active frames, air unblockable, and lets you combo into it and out of it. It’s shieldable, but you can trap people into it by getting them to block pillar at the right height, or you can simply go into it from air strings. You can relaunch into a combo if you do it early in a combo or as a starter, and if you do it late you can run up and 2C 22D to turn any combo or idle confirm into the strongest oki you have.

If you use Hime Kick with at least this much MAX time remaining, you can Blood Heat afterwards and connect AAD:

Minimum MAX meter for Hime to Hime Kick into Blood Heat Activate.

Hits 5 times but only adds 1 to internal hitcount for gravity and meter scaling.


Arc Drive / Another Arc Drive

Memory
41236C during MAX or HEAT (AD), 41236C during BLOOD HEAT (AAD)
MB FHime AD.png
The enemy’s hard-earned meter is now just a memory.
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
0, 275*25, 250 (3960) 0, 202 * 26 (2890) 100% -ALL (MAX, HEAT) - LHA 3+2 (3+22) 3 80 total duration - 7-68
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
0, ???*41 (5545) 0, ???*41 (4440) 100% -ALL (BLOOD HEAT) - LHA 2+2 (2+17) 3 75 total duration - 6-68

A combo ender. Extremely high hit count (27 for AD, 42 for AAD) triggers the protection system to give the opponent meter; afterwards inflicts a special circuit break that removes 100 meter in addition to sealing their meter (for 5 seconds with AD, 10 seconds with AAD). If your generous donation put the opponent in MAX, or they were already in it, the 100 deduction becomes an elimination, setting enemy meter to zero.

In addition to ruining the enemy’s meter, both versions give a lengthy untechable knockdown that allows you to either set up midscreen flight oki, or charge your meter back above 100% and still throw out something meaty.

Has two hitboxes. The first, beginning frame 5 (AD) / 4 (AAD), only hits people in and makes it easy to combo into. The second, beginning frame 25 (AD) / 19 (AAD), tries to hit again if the cinematic hasn’t already begun. Because of this, it’s easy to combo into, but more difficult to punish things with. Though, it gets inv shortly after the combo hit, so it can work against some projectiles and long-range setup moves.

Donating the opponent meter is affected by moon-specific meter generation; full-moon gets 10% less than C, and half-moon gets 30% less.

Because AAD donates much more meter, it is usually preferred to go for as a combo ender after hime kick with the hime kick > blood heat > AAD link; generally, you’d only prefer AD if combo count is low and the opponent has little meter, or you lack the time to AD after hime kick. There’s a lot of specifics to the data, but numbers to keep in your head are that AAD donates 135% vs C / 121% vs F directly out of throw, and 300% after a 14 hit combo vs C / 16 hit combo F, with meter growing more or less linearly with hit count between those points (note that hime kick only counts as 1 for this in spite of adding 5 to the displayed hit count). Throw > 2C > 236A/B > AAD is less damage than throw > AAD, but ends up donating 199.6% vs C / 179.4% vs F, zeroing if they’re at least at 100.4% / 120.6 to start.

AAD also does more damage and circuit breaks for 10 seconds to AD’s 5, but zeroing their meter is the more relevant thing most of the time.

Most of your opponents will likely be Crescent or Full-Moon, but take note vs Half Moon opponents that they do not automatically enter HEAT after hitting 200%, they only hit it after the combo would end, meaning that taking away 100% puts them at 100%, not 0%. So, if the opponent is below around 90% meter as half-moon, it’s generally better to just go with AD rather than AAD because it will give them less afterward, and if they’re really low and your combo has been long you may just want to just go for hime kick 2C oki, since the seal matters little if they’re H moon with low meter.


For more specifics:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rjS-P3kCN7ziQOnuiqzX9J6jT__KzAoMXFGKPFBtqxE/edit?usp=sharing


Last Arc

The End
Tap ground shield during BLOOD HEAT
MB FHime LA.png
Well, they’re dead now
Damage Red Damage Proration Circuit Cancel Guard Startup Active Recovery Frame Adv Invuln
9000 7414 50% + 50% * remaining BH time -all - - 1 3 total 29 - 1-29

Opponents scared of you sealing their meter with any hit or throw may try to pressure you when you’re in blood heat; unfortunately for them, your last arc hits everywhere on the screen and has a base damage of 9000 (minimum 4500 with no BH time remaining), delivered all in one chunk so as to completely ignore increased defense at lower life values. If that doesn’t kill them outright, it gets you midscreen flight oki, too. (You can charge your meter back too, but the kd isn’t quite as good as off arc drive, so you can’t reach 100% and still meaty.)

If the opponent manages to invuln through the hit, your recovery is fairly short, and you are invuln during the entire recovery period, so you may be able to punish whatever they went inv with and a true punish against you is literally impossible.

Combos

Note: In most cases, if you are early in MAX and your combo won’t kill the opponent and you either have enough hits to guarantee a seal or the opponent is fairly close, it is worth cutting the combo short to go straight into Hime Kick into AAD. The oki is good, the damage won’t ever be bad, and sealing the opponent’s meter is very, very impactful. If you don’t quite have enough hits in the combo to make AAD worthwhile, you might be able to get them by doing 236B canceled into AAD, which will reduce damage but add 3 hits. For more information, see the Arc Drive section.

Because combos involving flight have a constant meter drain during them, the meter generation is listed counting through the last normal before the ender, as this is the number that counts towards pushing you into MAX. The exception to this is if a meterless combo involves flying but ends with you in a standing state, either because you landed and continued while grounded or because you ran out of flight time and hit the ground after the combo at a consistent time.

Basics (midscreen)


Standing
V.Sion damage: 4082 (from 2A 2B 2C, AT ender) Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 56.6% Opponent Meter Generated: 18.8% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C rejump j.AC dj.BC [AT or j.63214C]
(starting from raw 236B, 2C or 5C 236B, 2A 2B 2C 236A, etc)

The most basic Hime combo that is worth knowing. Any ground string can cancel to 236A or 236B and get you this, or you can get it going into 236X off most hits vs airborne opponents.

The double jump - air dash can be tricky at first, since you generally want to air dash immediately but as F-Moon you can’t cancel to air dash; it’s recommended that you input it as a slightly late 9~6A+B. If you input A+B within three frames before j.[C] hitstop ends and you hold it, the air dash will be buffered and come instantly out of the double jump.

Beyond just being the first Hime combo to learn, it still sees some use in higher level play; if your confirm was weird or you mess something up and you see that your height is wrong to do the next combo, you can go into this instead as a fail-safe.

You can also fly cancel the last j.C into flight into j.A before air throw to follow up with j.236C to finish them off or try for a meaty j.6[B], though you’ll be dealing with the meter loss from flight on the way down.

After hime kick, you can either run up and 2C into flight mixup, or enter blood heat and use AAD to seal their meter.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 3743 (from 2A 2B 2) Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 53.0% Opponent Meter Generated: 17.6% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C land 2C, 2A 2C 22D
(starting from raw 236B, 2C or 5C 236B, 2A 2B 2C 236A, etc)

Your far-range bread and butter. This is how you get your flight mixup, and if you aren’t close enough to the corner to go into a corner route and you’re too far away to work a 6C 236A route, it’s the best way to get it.

Some characters, like Kohaku, Nero, Kouma, and Red Arc, have hurtboxes that shift in the air in ways that mean that you need to delay 2C a bit after landing to make the combo work if you do it off of raw 236B. It gets easier to do the combo on them after a short string because of increasing gravity, but vs Koha/Nero raw 236B and 5C 236B are common starters, so make sure to practice vs them.

Riesbyfe and Ryougi air hurtboxes are worse still. The weird delays needed to stabilize the combo make it very difficult. Don’t recommend trying this route vs them off of raw 236B (though you can with a longer string before the geyser).

Vs necos, you need to hit stuff earlier than normal or they’ll hit the ground, but it’s easy to adjust vs them by eye. Take note that j.[C] will whiff over necos out of 2C 236X if you don’t press it immediately after jumping.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4557 (from 2A 2B 2C, AT ender) Meter spent: flight (+ 150%) Meter Generated: 74.1% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 30% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C land 2C, 2A 2C 6[C] 22D j.2B~2E (j.C) sdj.BC [AT or j.63214C]
(starting from raw 236B, 2C or 5C 236B, 2A 2B 2C 236A, etc)

Extended combo from the previous when you believe you can kill them with just a bit more damage, or if you are close to MAX.

Decreasing untech time makes linking j.B after the fly cancel harder once you’ve done 17 hits. However, 2E (E being quick action) gives one frame of down+A+B input, because for crescent and half moon characters, that’s a shortcut for dodge; since F doesn’t have a dodge, that means just a second j.B input, even if B is already pressed. By inputting j.2B immediately into j.2E or j.2E immediately into j.2B, you get two chances to hit the j.B link (as j.2B is just j.B), hence j.2B~2E in the notation. However, it’s recommended you do B before E because of something in a different combo.

Increasing gravity from longer combo counts means you can get away with more hits before hime kick; do j.BC sdj.BC if the opponent hit count is 17 or above after 6[C], or just do j.B sdj.BC if not.

If you have at least 283.1 meter before the 6[C], j.B sdj.BC will hit MAX before hime kick. With at least 279.7, j.BC sdj.BC will get you there.

If you press them into the corner, you can use 214BX instead of 6[C], and also immediately go into air throw after the launcher to set up some gimmick oki, if you want.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4722 (from 2A 5B 2B 5C, AT ender) Meter spent: flight (+ 150%) Meter Generated: 61.9% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 23.5% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.C sdj.BC AT or j.63214C
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C 6C, 2B 5C 6C, etc)

Commits to a route that cannot get a good knockdown without spending meter, but in return it deals significantly more damage and gains a bit more meter. If your meter lines up that this will put you into MAX, there’s no reason not to go for it.

Against Ryougi, 5C 6C 236A doesn’t work, but you can substitute 2C 6C 236A.

Against necos, j.22D j.C does not work midscreen, though you can do drift forward j.B dj.BC instead.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4545 (from 2A 2B 5C, AT ender) Meter spent: flight (+ 150%) Meter Generated: 63% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 23.7% -

xx 5C 236A, 5A 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.C dj.BC AT or j.63214C
(starting from far 2A 2B 5C, far 2A 5B 2B 5C vs standing / very tall opponents)

vs farther opponents, 5C 6C will not hit, and at the edge of it it will but you can’t set up crossunder j.[C] with it. Substitute this combo in those cases if you still want this route.

Often fails vs Ryougi.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4959 (from 2A 5B 2B 5C, AT ender) Meter spent: flight (+ 150%) Meter Generated: 66.8% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 25.9% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A sdj.BC AT or j.63214C

V.Sion damage: 4764 (from 2A 2B 5C, AT ender) Meter spent: flight (+ 150%) Meter Generated: 67.7% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 26.1% -

xx 5C 236A, 5A 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A sdj.BC AT or j.63214C

Another variant of the midscreen crossunder j.[C] j.236A combo. Pillar fly cancel pillar is more technical than the previous combos and doesn’t add much, but it is slightly more damage and metergain.

Again, you can make the first version work vs Ryougi by using 2C instead of 5C.

Pillar fly cancel pillar becomes quite a bit harder if the first pillar’s last hit hits as hit 17 or higher, so you may not want to go for it after, for instance, far 2A 5B 2B 5C 236A, 5A 236A.




Anti-air
V.Sion damage: 1886 Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 12.6% Opponent Meter Generated: 4.2% -

5B 9j.B 9dj delay j.A AT

Meterless anti-air combo that reliably gets you a knockdown, albeit not the strongest one, and not doing much damage. If you can spend the meter, though, there’s little reason not to do:




Anti-air
V.Sion damage: 3873 Meter spent: 100% Meter Generated: 27% Opponent Meter Generated: 23.4% -

5B 9j.BC dj.BC j.236C

Basic anti-air combo. Going into EX pillar so early causes this combo to do fairly respectable damage and either sets up flight oki if you believe your opponent won’t tech, or lets you try to tech trap if you think they might.




Air throw / Shield counter
V.Sion damage: 2809 (from shield counter) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 69.6% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 27.7% -

into 2A 2C, 2A 2C 6[C] 236A crossunder j.[C] dj.ABD j.6[B] j.[C]

Basic combo to midscreen knockdown as set up by air throw or shield counter.




Air throw / Shield counter
V.Sion damage: 3700 (from shield counter) (2C ender) Meter spent: flight + 150% Meter Generated: 79.1% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 154.7% -

into 2A 2C, 2A 2C 6[C] 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A, 9sdj.BC j.63214C

More damaging route into hime kick. This is about the most you can get out of air throw, since it starts with a ground bounce and you only have one to work with.

More difficult from shield counter starter than from air throw starter because of the +1 hit pushing the first pillar to 17 last hit.




Throw
V.Sion damage: 2065 Meter spent: 100% Meter Generated: 0% Opponent Meter Generated: 114.4% -

Throw, j.236C

Adds significant damage to a throw and sets up a flight oki vs tech trap guessing game for the opponent.




Throw
V.Sion damage: 2524 Meter spent: ALL Meter Generated: N/A Opponent Meter Generated: 36.2% - 100% -

Throw, 41236C (in MAX or HEAT)

Connects throw into arc drive. Easily seals them for a bit, and takes away some of the enemy meter, all while giving you uncontested flight oki (or meter charge plus a meaty).




Throw
V.Sion damage: 2318 Meter spent: ALL Meter Generated: N/A Opponent Meter Generated: 99.6% - 100% -

Throw, 2C 236B 41236C (in BLOOD HEAT)

Tries to maximize chances for meter to be stolen. Raw arc drive does more damage, but the added hits here push it closer to zeroing enemy C/F meter, zeroing an enemy with at least 100.4% C / 120.6% F rather than throw > AAD’s zeroing one with at least 164.7% / 178.5.



Basics (in/near corner)


Standing
V.Sion damage: 3887 (from 2A 5B 2B 5C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 57.0% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 19.0% -

xx 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] dj.ABD j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D

V.Sion damage: 3767 (from 2A 2B 5C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 57.8% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 19.2% -

xx 5C 236A, 5A 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] dj.ABD j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D

This route is less damaging than other options you have, but it pulls the opponent out of the corner and lets you get a midscreen knockdown even against cornered opponents.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 3930 (from 2A 2B 2C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 56.0% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 20.0% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD slight delay j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.[C], delay, air dash pillar oki

Easiest corner-only route off of far 236X that still gets mix; also works when you’re a bit too far to do the next route is a bit too far.

The normal version of this route forces you into pillar oki, so if the opponent likes to shield pillar, you can cancel the last j.[C] into j.236A. It won’t hit, but it will put you back into hover state, letting you drift down and do meaty overhead/fastfall low stuff.

Because this route relies on j.[C] for knockdown, you must not let j.[C] hit as the 17th or later hit in the combo, so no starting it off 2A 5B 2B 2C.

Because you don’t land and refresh your double jump, you can’t actually jump up to catch the opponent if they get hit by the pillar, so don’t go for this if you don’t have enough meter to at least EX Pillar them.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4601 (from 2A 2B 2C) Meter spent: flight + 100% Meter Generated: 50.7% (before pillar) Opponent Meter Generated: 34.5% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD slight delay j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.[C] AT j.236C

Most damaging versioning of this route without going into arc drive, for finishing the opponent off.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 3635 (from 2A 2B 2C) Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 52.6% Opponent Meter Generated: 19.0% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D j.22, 2A 2C (22D)

A more technical version of the near corner far 236X route. You have to be pretty close to the corner to make j.6[B] j.[C] work, and it doesn’t allow for much delay, but in exchange you get all of your options for corner flight oki.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4390 (from 2A 2B 2C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 73.3% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 29.2% -

xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D j.22, 2A 2C 6[C] 22D j.2B~2E (j.C) sdj.BC AT

This is the most damaging meterless variant of far 236X combos, for finishing the opponent off. Notably not stronger than j.[C] pillar fly cancel stuff with meter, because those have the EX Pillar do more damage than they would here.

Add the j.C after the j.2B~2E if 6[C] was hit 17 or higher.

You may be tempted to go into 214BX instead of 6[C] like is often done with the midscreen route when it presses to the corner, but you’ve already used up all your bounces, so that won’t get you anything.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 4958 (from 2A 5B 2B 2C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 66.8% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 27.1% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.[C] delay j.236A, drift forward j.C AT
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

V.Sion damage: 5087 (from 2A 5B 2B 2C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 71.5% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 37.6% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.6B j.[C] delay j.236A, drift forward j.C AT
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

V.Sion damage: 5254 (from 2A 5B 2B 2C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 65.9% Opponent Meter Generated: 32.4% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A j.[C]~E delay j.236A, drift forward j.C AT
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

Damaging combo that gets you a low air throw ender. This is worse than real flight oki, but it still lets you take various meaty actions against your opponent (air dash j.BC, land and 2B if you were low enough, land dash 2A, etc). The lower the air throw, the sooner you land. The sweetspot where they recover in time to be hit by meaty airdash j.B depends on the enemy wakeup time, but at the very least you get pressure off of this and it is much more damage (and metergain) than basic flight oki combos.

The first combo is the most basic version, and the second is a stronger version for when you’ve fully pressed to the corner before the fly cancel. The version with three pillars is the most damage, but takes too much time in flight to allow you to do anything on the way down, so your options afterward are a bit more linear.

Linking the double pillar into j.[C] is a bit technical as there is no extra buffer time on normals, except command normals (which this isn’t). But much like j.2E and like flight into j.B, 5E (neutral quick action) gives an A+B+C input even if C is already held down, translating to a second chance the link (which can be as tight as two frames without it) by pressing E immediately before or after holding j.C; hence the j.[C]~E notation. It’s important that you get used to doing C before E here, as if you do it the other way around, you may sometimes accidentally initiative heat cancel the end of j.236A if you’re in MAX.




Standing
V.Sion damage: 5228 (from 2A 5B 2B 2C) (j.63214C 2C ender) Meter spent: flight + 150% Meter Generated: 73.2% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 46.2% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.[C] slight delay j.236A, drift forward j.C dj.BC [AT j.236C] or j.63214C
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

V.Sion damage: 5344 (from 2A 5B 2B 2C) (j.63214C 2C ender) Meter spent: flight + 150% Meter Generated: 78.1% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 53.8% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D slight delay j.6[B] j.[C] slight delay j.236A, drift forward j.C dj.BC AT or j.236C or j.63214C
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

V.Sion damage: UNK (from 2A 5B 2B 2C) (j.63214C 2C ender) Meter spent: flight + 150% Meter Generated: 80.7% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 66.5% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A j.[C]~E slight delay j.236A, drift forward j.C dj.BC AT or j.236C or j.63214C
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

Highest-damage combo. Adds extra hits to the above to eke just a bit more out of it to try to finish someone, or into hime kick to claim flight oki. You only have time for AT j.236C off the most basic version. If your execution is strong enough, the third version has no downsides when you only care about damage, but since double pillar into j.[C] can be a bit intimidating, go with what you feel you can do.




In corner, Throw
V.Sion damage: 1445 Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 6.7% Opponent Meter Generated: 2.2% -

Throw, walk back slightly 2C 22D

The most reliable meterless advantage you can get off of throw is to just fly after it, but you may sometimes want to do this instead; it adds a bit more damage and the pushback on 2C before flight makes it easier to get positioning to avoid most people’s DPs while still having a pillar come down on them before they can act. The tradeoff is that the opponent will be able to tech the 2C; you can catch this tech if you don’t fly cancel, but it may still not be worth the risk if you’re fighting someone with poor reversal options.




In corner, Throw
V.Sion damage: 1445 Meter spent: 100 Meter Generated: 6.7% Opponent Meter Generated: 2.2% -

Throw, walk back slightly 2C 22C

Adds damage and still gives definitive pressure. Recommended when you have at least 190%. While what you get off of throw into EX pillar is damage and a setup, a well-spaced 22C lets you get a combo off of it into EX pillar if they tech forward or neutral, with back tech still having them have to block 22C. (you can also slightly delay 22C to catch back tech if you want to call that out, though this keeps you from comboing if they forward tech; you’ll still have pressure, though.) Otherwise, if they don’t tech, you have 22C running against a cornered opponent, more or less allowing you to do whatever you want.



Situational combos


MAX press, Standing
V.Sion damage: 4842 (2A 2B 2C start) Meter spent: ALL Meter Generated: 68.0% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: ALL - 100% / to zero -

With somewhat precise meter, xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C 9sj j.ABC sdj.BC j.22D j.A(B)C j.63214C, A+B+C, 41236C

Do flight into j.AC if done from 236B or 2C 236B, j.ABC if you have a longer string before it. Go for this if you have at least 265.7 meter before the delay j.C/272 after if done from 236B or 2C 236B, or at least 262.8 before/269.1 after if done from a longer string, or if you’re in MAX but still have a decent amount to go before you can no longer arc drive after hime kick.

Landing and doing 2C is your best meterless option off this sort of starter, and relaunching with 6[C] from there is more metergain than this. However, this deals its damage faster, allowing for you to make certain you’ve gotten the most you can before the MAX timer has gotten to the point you can no longer arc drive after hime kick, and it does a bit more damage with the arc drive taken into account, too.




MAX press, Standing
V.Sion damage: 4737 (2A 5B 2B 2C start) Meter spent: ALL Meter Generated: 99.4% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: ALL - 100% / to zero -

With somewhat precise meter, pressing into corner, xx 236X j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C 2C, 2A 2C 214BX, j.A(B)C sdj.BC j.22D j.A(B)C j.63214C, A+B+C, 41236C Pretty much the maximum metergain you can from normal starters; you can reach MAX if you have at least 244.8 before the delay j.C/251.1 after with raw 236B, 240.3 before the delay j.C/246.6 after with at least a 2C before. Just do j.AC after 214X if you started with raw 236B, j.ABC with at least a 2C. You can’t get the j.ABC except off of long starters such as 2A 5B 2B 2C, where your sole goal is the metergain.

Does less damage than other routes into hime kick arc drive, but when you have just the right amount of meter, that’s hardly irrelevant; 2A 5B 2B 2C into this will get you MAX starting from just 200.6 meter (albeit doing only 5/6ths the damage of 2A 5B 2B 5C 236A into a triple pillar combo, which maxes from about 209 meter.). It does also give a C-moon opponent 63 meter, though, so be careful not to put them in max.




MAX press, Air throw / Shield counter
V.Sion damage: 3238 (from shield counter) Meter spent: -ALL Meter Generated: 118.7 Opponent Meter Generated: 92.4 + ALL - 100 / to zero -

into 2A 2C, 2A 2C, 2A 2C 214B, 2A 2C, 2A 2C 6[C] 236A j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C rejump j.ABC sdj.ABC j.63214C

Gains a very, very high amount of meter; gets you to MAX if started with at least 190.3 meter after the shield counter or air throw.

Because of the hit count, it gives a lot of meter to the opponent; a C-Moon opponent will gain 80.5 meter from air throw starter, and 92.4 from shield counter; if they burst after the hime kick flash, you may have wasted their meter but you don’t have advantage.

You can do a fly cancel after the sdj.ABC and go into another j.ABC, but it’s a 1-frame link with no cool tricks you can do to improve that, though, and it only adds 7.8 meter (plus donates quite a bit more to the opponent), so like, don’t bother.




Near corner, Shield counter
V.Sion damage: 2799 - Meter Generated: 65.8 Opponent Meter Generated: 21.8 -

2A 2C, 2A 2C 6[C] 236A j.[C] dj.AD delay j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D j.22, 2A 2C 22D

Shield counter combo for pressing into the corner. If the corner is close behind you, you can run underneath the opponent after the shield counter. If the shield counter didn’t counterhit, it may be difficult to get two 2A 2Cs after running under them, so if you notice you’re too far, going into 236A without another rep of 2A 2C or 6[C] sacrifices very little.




Pillar
V.Sion damage: 2540 (AT ender) Meter spent: flight (+ 100/150) Meter Generated: variable Opponent Meter Generated: 8.1% -

Pillar > dj.BC j.63214C or AT (j.236C)

Normally, you don’t expect your pillar oki to hit them, but if they tried something and got got for it, this is what you can do.




22C behind you, Instant overhead
V.Sion damage: UNK Meter spent: (100%) 0, 150% Meter Generated: 20.2% Opponent Meter Generated: 10.3% -

instant j.ABC j.BC AT or j.63214C

Instant j.A hits fast enough that the sparks from 22C can launch afterward if they’re trying to block low, allowing a simple combo. You’ll need to run forward a bit if they aren’t cornered under most setups. Not recommended to try except against Hime/Nero/Wara/Tohno/Nanaya/WLen.




Air combo
V.Sion damage: 4816 (from 22C instant j.A starter) Meter spent: (UNK), flight + 150% Meter Generated: N/A Opponent Meter Generated: 34.8% -

From any air string into hime kick that doesn’t use jump cancel, dash 2C 236A j.[C] dj.AD j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D j.22, 2A 2C 22D

Sacrifices five-way oki from hime kick to add substantial damage and set up corner oki of your choice.




Air combo
V.Sion damage: 3709 (from pillar j.BC j.63214C) Meter spent: flight, 150% Meter Generated: variable Opponent Meter Generated: 29.9% -

From any air string into hime kick that doesn’t use jump cancel and has 5 or fewer hits before the jump cancel, dash 2A 2C 236A crossunder j.[C] dj.ABD j.6[B] j.[C] j.22D

Add substantial damage to short strings into hime kick and still gets you your superior five-way oki. Longer strings before hime kick will prevent j.[C] from knocking down, however, but this is a good option after pillar > j.BC hime kick.




Special okizeme, While cornered with opponent against you, Standing
V.Sion damage: 4185 (from 2A 2B 5C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 52% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 18.7% -

2A [5B if you’re both as far into the corner as possible] 2B 5C 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.[C] jc slight delay AD, pillar oki

Usually set up off of hime kick flight oki, but may happen while mashing out or if you air dash over them with j.C and it hits and carries them with you and then you go into 2A 5B. This combo sets up tricky okizeme where pillar is hitting them meaty and restricting their reversal choices, but you’re in the corner with the pillar pressing them into the corner, meaning you can either keep the corner and come down on that side, or slightly move out and cross them up, do fastfall stuff, variable timing stuff - the benefits of midscreen and corner okis at the same time.




Near own corner
V.Sion damage: 3961 Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 62.0% Opponent Meter Generated: 20.6% -

2A 5B 2C 214BX, 236B j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C 2C, 2A 2C

Any time you’re in position to hit 2A 5B and the corner is to you back, this will do reasonable damage while putting the opponent in the corner.




In MAX, vs Hime/Nero/Wara, Instant overhead
V.Sion damage: 5311 (with full string) Meter spent: ALL Meter Generated: N/A Opponent Meter Generated: N/A -

instant j.B IH slight delay j.AB 2B 5C 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.6[B] j.[C] dj.AD long delay j.C AD

Or a shorter combo, just doing whatever you can while you still have HEAT time, before ending in arc drive. High damage instant overhead combo ending in arc drive. The timing to get the instant overhead requires j.B to be input during a two-frame window, and the delay afterward is a bit specific, so make sure to practice it if you want to use it.



Advanced combos


Midscreen, Standing / Shield counter
V.Sion damage: 5167 (from 2A 2B 5C 6C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 70.7 (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 30.5 -

short string 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A j.[C]~E dj.AD long delay j.C land slight walk back 5A 236A 22D j.2E~B dj.AT
(starting from 2A 2B 5C 6C, j.B 5B 5C, 2B 5C 6C, j.AB 5C 6C, shield counter 2A 2C, etc)

High damage combo that turns any hit into corner pressure meterless. If you start this combo while cornered, the delay is slightly longer than if you’re a few character lengths out or more due to j.C hitting in front of it before it hits below. The exception is vs Nero, who is large enough to be hit by the first hitbox of j.C even if you’re fully pressed into the corner.

the slight walk back to 5A can basically be input as [4]A. As for j.2E~B, similar to j.[C]~E, 2E is a 1 frame A+B macro (for crescent and half moon dodges), and this gives 2 chances at the j.B link. The j.B link isn’t particularly hard without it, but hitting them early means they’re slightly lower and generally makes the air throw height work out better.

Some of the starters listed have j.[C] hit as the 15th hit and have the delay j.C hit as the 16th hit to maximize potential untech time, but the others, where j.[C] hits as the 16th hit, are easier to confirm into but have the rejump link be slightly more precise. If the j.[C] is the 17th or above, you won’t be hitting at a reasonable height for this.

Vs some characters, the 236A only partially hits, but unlike with easier combos that actually does nothing to stop this combo from working; it might make the j.B more precise, but you’re using the 2E~B double input to get it as soon as possible anyway, so it doesn’t matter.

Slightly more precise vs Satsuki, Roa, Lens, Ciels, Ries; you have a frame less or so to land the delay j.C than vs most thin characters before they hit the ground. One of them is recommended as a training dummy when learning this combo.

Extremely difficult vs Kohaku; the j.[C] hits her slightly weirdly and she hits the ground early. Probably not worth using vs her.

Fails vs Necos.




Midscreen, Standing / Shield Counter
V.Sion damage: 5067 (from 2A 2B 5C 6C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 62.2% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 26.8% -

Midscreen short string 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A j.[C]~E dj.AD long delay j.C land 214A 22D AT, pillar oki
(starting from 2A 2B 5C 6C, j.B 5B 5C, 2B 5C 6C, j.AB 5C 6C, shield counter 2A 2C, etc)

Vs characters whose back knockdown times are particularly long, the above combo will put you too low to hit with an air dash j.B, and while you could add more parts to make the air throw higher, you can also use this alternative ender which throws them low enough to get pillar oki. Characters that wake up fast can get out of it and punish the pillar probably on reaction by dashing forward, but people like Ries have to take it. You’re locked specifically into pillar oki, so you may have to deal with people playing shield games, but it’s still very advantageous for you.

The 214A 22D AT part is very tight, so it’s highly recommended that you buffer 214A as you’re landing and input throw as 6A+D rather than 6E so that you can buffer it out of the fly cancel.

Same character notes as the previous, but also you’re really only using it against late-wakers (aoko, kouma, ries, len, nero) anyway.




Midscreen, Standing
V.Sion damage: 4997 (from 2A 5B 2B 5C 6C) Meter spent: flight Meter Generated: 66.2% (before ender) Opponent Meter Generated: 27.1% -

Midscreen xx 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A j.[C]~E dj.AD delay j.C AT

By going for an air throw on the way down instead of doing a relaunch, you lock yourself out of your stronger oki options, but you can do it off of many more starting strings since you cut out the part that becomes needlessly precise; multiple other buttons into 5B 2B 5C will still let you end with this.

Can’t be done from own corner; requires a bit more space moving forward in order to actually connect the air throw after j.C.

Aside from necos and kohaku, this ender is basically the same on everyone.




Midscreen, Standing / Shield Counter
V.Sion damage: 5433 (from 2A 2B 5C 6C, 2C ender) Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 87.0% (before hime kick) Opponent Meter Generated: 67.2% -

Midscreen short string 5C 6C 236A crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.236A j.[C]~E dj.AD long delay j.C rejump j.ABC sdj.BC j.22D j.AC j.63214C, 2C / A+B+C > 41236C
(starting from 2A 2B 5C 6C, j.B 5B 5C, 2B 5C 6C, j.AB 5C 6C, shield counter 2A 2C, etc)

Maximum midscreen damage going into either 2C for oki or blood heat arc drive for oki and meter sealing.




Near corner
V.Sion damage: 4891 (from 2A 5B 2B 5C, full ender) Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 76.7% Opponent Meter Generated: 32.7% -

xx 5C 6C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D slight delay j.6[B] j.[C] dj.AD long delay j.C 2C (2A 2C) 22D
(starting from close 2A 5B 2B 5C, 5B 2B 5C, 2B 5C, etc)

The best of both worlds in terms of hime combos: Damage and meterless oki. While the midscreen combo with the long delay j.C doesn’t really get oki, the fall on j.6[B] j.[C] sets everything to be the perfect height to make this work.

There’s multiple different heights you can catch them at with j.C that work, though if you catch them high (visually confirm during 2C) you need another 2A 2C to get the knockdown; if you catch them low, it’s much easier to forego it and go straight into your oki of choice.

Easiest if final j.[C] hits as 16th hit or later. Technically still possible after that, but connecting 2C after becomes very difficult and requires a 2A 2C link, which also becomes harder due to breaking the 21 hit mark on the prior 2C.

As you might expect, it’s harder vs Satsuki, Roa, Lens, Ciels, Ries and much harder vs Kohaku for the same reason and also because you need a significantly delayed j.[B] to even hit her.

Awkward vs Nero; works better if you do j.6[B] instantly out of j.22D (a timing that whiffs vs most characters). This timing also works on Hime, though it’s not really necessary vs her.




Near corner / while cornered, Shield counter
V.Sion damage: 3353 (full ender) Meter spent: 0 Meter Generated: 70% Opponent Meter Generated: 27.8% -

(run under) 2A 2C 236A 9j. crossunder j.[C] j.236A j.22D j.6[B] j.[C] dj.AD long delay j.C 2C (2A 2C) 22D

The same combo as above, but with a shield counter start. What’s notable here is not just that you can do the combo off of shield counter, as you can many other things, but that while you’re cornered, you have time to go to the other side of them after the shield counter and still do your hyper-optimal play.

If right next to them, allow a bit of delay after 236A before you input j.[C] so they don’t push you into the corner. If this happens, you can at least go to j.[C] AT after pillar to get /a/ knockdown, but that’s hardly the point of going for something like this.

The shield counter heavily prorates the combo, but if you can pull this off you’ve stolen the opponent’s momentum along with their hope.




Near center stage throw
V.Sion damage: 2089 (from 8-hit center, full ender) Meter spent: 100% Meter Generated: 9.4% Opponent Meter Generated: 23.6% -

Throw into slight delay 236C, 236B j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C 2C, 2A 2C (,2A 2C) 22D

You’ve seen this route before. The combo itself is not particularly difficult, but recognizing when it’s correct to go for it and not simply hit throw into j.236C is; it does about as much damage. Still, when it works, it reliably pins them down.

There’s two general timings for this string; if you’re from extremely close to center, you can walk forward slightly before 236C (input as 23[6]C) and have it hit 8 times, then walk forward before the 236B and slightly delay your j.[C]. If you’re a bit further out, vs most characters it will hit 7 times and you’ll need to buffer 236B perfectly. Depending on how 236C hits them, it may not work at all, so it’s probably safest to only go for it when you have a center stage throw, which is not broadly applicable but is often easier to visually confirm. Fewer hits of 236C do mean more damage in the combo, though.

There is a strange bug ("Jump Uninstall") where you cannot double jump if you are never in a neutral state between throw and jump-canceling 236B; this breaks the combo. This isn’t a problem with the center-stage version, but when you’re a bit further out you still need to be sure to delay 236C just slightly after the throw, as you need to buffer 236B perfectly for that version to work and this bug will stop your combo dead after the j.[C].

For various different reasons, impractical vs White Len, Ryougi, and the Necos.




Blood Heat, Near center stage throw
V.Sion damage: 2304 (from 8-hit center) Meter spent: ALL Meter Generated: N/A Opponent Meter Generated: ALL - 100 / to zero -

Throw into slight delay 236C, 236B j.[C] dj.AD delay j.C 2C, 2A 2C 236B 41236C

Or thereabouts. You need about 3/4 of your BH time remaining for this full string to work, though it can be slightly abbreviated and still function, if they don’t quite have enough to zero off a more normal throw string but you’re fairly early in blood heat time. The listed route is the shortest one that will zero an F-Moon character regardless of their starting meter.

The scenario where you’d go for this is pretty unlikely, but it’s neat.




Near center stage throw
V.Sion damage: 2255 (from 8-hit center) Meter spent: flight, 200% Meter Generated: N/A Opponent Meter Generated: 39.4 -

Throw into slight delay 236C, 236B j.[C] j.236B j.22D j.236B, sdj delay j.BC AT, j.236C

General-case max damage off this confirm. Probably not worthwhile, but very cool.



General Gameplan

Neutral

Your most basic goal is to work yourself into a range where you can confirm hits into combos and your opponent cannot; most of the time, this is the edge of 2C range. Because your effective range is most likely greater than theirs, characters in general want to get in on you more than you want to get in on them, and you have a lot of ways to shut this down; 2C and 5B are great against people directly moving towards you from the ground, and between 236X, 623X, and 5B, you have plenty of anti-airs vs people who want to come at you from above. If you aren’t confident about catching something, your backwalk will get you out of range of a lot of things and let you counterpoke, and people dashing in will often run headfirst into your DP, especially if they don’t have a good dashblock. If they’re committing to not getting hit, and especially if they’re trying to bait 236B to get in since it’s so minus, you can use their hesitance to dash in yourself and move directly into pressure.

But while Hime definitely has more to work with on the ground than in the air, it’s important not to play too linearly, and moving into the air in neutral is good too. Any time you can safely flight, either after threatening with j.6B or j.236A or just when they aren’t close, you gain a lot of options to work with; the ability to shimmy in the air is something a lot of people have difficulty dealing with, and people chasing a back drift can be caught off guard by you moving to a forward j.AB or by a sudden fastfall. Or if you’re particularly high, you can play the same “hey, see if you can get in on me” game from a different angle by making use of pillar and slight movements. Your horizontal speed never goes down after you airdash, so if you need a safe way down you can use it, and the back of j.C will catch people chasing you out of that. Fastfalling or suddenly dropping with a downward-drifting normal will also get you back into an advantageous spot if they aren’t prepared.

Some people really just don’t want to deal with you, though, whether because they’re more dedicated zoners with higher ranger to work or simply because they got a life lead and would rather run the timer than risk dealing with your neutral prowess. At those times, you need ways to force the situation - and that’s something Hime’s quite good at. 22A/22B gain you meter just for using them, and they give you coverage to dash in. 22A is better if they stay and block it, but 22B can throw people off who want to jump over 22A. People who aren’t approaching are also at the mercy of the full range of j.6[B], and j.236B can add some pretty alright chip damage or force awkward situations. And of course, anyone content to just hang back and throw projectiles must be worried about j.236C giving you a knockdown. Or if they don’t have a full-screen presence, you can make them come to you by charging your meter - letting you initiative heat will go a long way towards erasing a life deficit, or getting close to max and using 22C will definitely put them where you want them, and they probably would rather stop you from doing that, even if it means charging into F-Hime - but letting go of meter charge takes 8 frames before you can act, and that into 236B is 18, which with the fairly ambiguous charge end animation is not something they’ll be reacting to. Minimum meter charge duration is 29 frames, with one more before you can take an action other than block, which is not something most characters can react to and punish if you just want to tap it to make them flinch.

Pressure

When you do have the opponent blocking, you do have quite a few options for ways to keep the pressure going. All of your normals are pretty confirmable, there’s no real point when the opponent can get hit and it won’t end badly for them except if it’s by 214A (which serves its own purposes). It’s important to remember, 5A and 2C are +2 on block, while 5B, 2B, and max range 214A are ±0; all of these can be used as pressure reset points and have ways to punish people who try press against you by staggering into other things or in 214A’s case by teleporting back. From farther 2Cs, all you can really threaten with is 236B, which gives up your turn if blocked, but since that cleanly beats people trying to jump out, dash forward, or if done early even backdash, it’s something they always have to be wary of.

Once you’ve forced them to respect your pressure, you have more things to work. Instead of resetting pressure into 2A, you can reset it into j.6[B], throw, etc. From the same ranges where 5B 2C 214A is spaced just right, you can end after the 5B and be in throw range. With meter on deck and from a bit further away, cancelling various things into 22X into fly cancel can give you mixup if you’ve conditioned them to fear 22X into 214C or other gimmicks; 5C into 22C is also quite safe if you want to shed meter or are in max. Instant air dashing with j.AB or j.BC can work too, but hime’s air dash is slow so it’s reactable with shield or in some cases anti-air pokes; still, by mixing up what options you take, you can force them into uncomfortable situations; the startup of jump back pillar looks a whole lot like the startup of jump back airdash, for instance.

In the same manner, if the opponent is committing to blocking while cornered, TK pillar is also an option if you just want to throw it out for more specific advantage when fly cancelled; pillar > flight > pillar gives you options similar to what you get in corner oki, and pillar > flight > j.6[B] can catch people who would challenge the second pillar (it’s even a blockstring if done tight enough). More broadly, any time you feel the opponent isn’t ready for it, you can just fly cancel into pillar for easy mixup - or fly cancel into immediate fastfall low or throw. Whatever they won’t see coming. The advantage you get off of 22X into fly cancel is similar, though it’s a bit more telegraphed and something they’ll often want to jump out of if you haven’t specifically conditioned them with 214C.

And of course, the nicest thing about F-Hime pressure is… If they manage to weather the storm, if they have the discipline to block everything and break the throws, if you push yourself out or if they do manage to jump out… Then you’re just back at neutral - where F-Hime thrives.

Defense

Unfortunately for Hime, sometimes the opponent will actually get in on you, and her own unique mechanics combined with her less than stellar attack speed make that kind of a problem. If you’re blocking midscreen, you have more to work with - your backwalk is excellent and they’ll often have to worry about that when trying to do pressure resets, and at the same time you can jump back and j.6[B] the space you were in. But if you’re cornered, either because they hit you and took you into the corner or because you simply got pushed there, things are a lot, a lot worse for you. But, even if that happens, you aren’t without options. Your slow 2A won’t win you many mashing wars, but it will still catch people trying to dash back in after a pressure reset - something you can force to happen before they want with careful use of ex guard. If you can ever use ex guard to make the opponent whiff a normal in their chain, 2A is going to punish that almost every time thanks to its range. Similarly, if you can break a throw attempt against you, you’re at neutral with the opponent, but most likely you’re also in a situation where your 2A can hit and theirs can’t. If they know the matchup, they might press a button anyway to counterhit your extended hurtbox, but even if they know that’s an option it lets you play a minigame with them, which is better than being on strict defense.

But blocking, unfortunately, isn’t always going to get you out, no matter how well you do it. So you’ve gotta threaten with stuff - you’ve gotta get wild. That’s where your DP and your shield counter come in. Shield counter has great reward, and reading your opponent’s offense - or reacting to an charged move or slow mixup option by going into it rather than blocking - will be your cleanest option. Some opponents will periodically bait this, though, either because they just have the read on you or they’re using an attack/jump OS relying on how shieldstop is longer than hitstop or blockstop. There’s just enough time for them to get airborne and block your shield counter, and them air blocking it means you’re a bit minus. But, you can fight against even this - after all, your DP isn’t air blockable. It’s less rewarding than shield counter, but shield into DP can be just the cheeky option you need sometimes, and since shield stop affects them 4 frames more than you, both versions of your DPs will go active before they can get out of jump startup. Against people jumping at you this can be particularly good because their safejump needs to be perfect within 2 frames to beat shield into B DP if they want to block it, when normally safejumping DP or shield counter is fairly trivial and it’s quite common for people to do attack/jump OSes when jumping in (or simply jump cancel their jump-ins for mixup and pressure).

Although your jump is floaty and you’ll never really get punishes by jumping over stuff (except maybe by jumping into 236C, though that’s a great way to die if they block), you can still take pressure reset points into low-hitting attacks as a time to get out by jumping back and possibly super double jumping forward, maybe flying if they couldn’t immediately chase. You don’t really gain advantage here if you were cornered; they’re in a clear position to chase. But it’s a better position than the one you were just in, and you can get back to neutral then that’s your advantage. By the same token, any time someone lets you air tech out of a combo, it’s almost always correct to do so - flying out of means you don’t have to fall into the same setups everyone else does, after all, and even if they have a strong anti-air game it’s still better for you than being on the ground. Just be wary about lower tech spots, where they can rejump and counterhit your flight startup.

There’s one option Hime has that she’s not any slower at than anyone else - and that’s throw. It’s easily baited, and it only works if they’re right next to you, but it hits in 3 frames for you just the same as it does for everybody else - if you watch carefully, you can find opportunities to throw during certain resets, and by doing fuzzy throws to block jump-ins and throw people’s attempts at empty jump low, you have escape methods vs a lot of things. People may catch on to you going for this and try to bait it by staying in the air longer or doing more stuff with low air dashes, but that opens them up to being DP’d, so it’s always something to keep in mind.

Technically, Hime can also backdash out of things… But like many melty blood backdashes, Hime’s is pretty bad, having a total duration of 31 frames. Even if it gets you out of range of something midscreen and they can’t immediately punish, your lack of quick pokes means have pressure on you again. You can play gimmicks with it, but they are very weak gimmicks.

Most likely due to an oversight, hime has a strange quirk where she has a very tall collision box while knocked down, and this makes it so the opponent cannot cross her up when only barely over her. A lot of characters’ basic oki setups don’t work on her because of this, giving her an easier time blocking. However, in all cases there are ways to still cross her up if they change things slightly; sometimes they won’t have quite as many options, but in most cases it’s just a curiosity that strong players have already adapted to. But, if you see their setup looks like it might be an ambiguous sideswitch but it’s done fairly low… if you’re Hime, it’s always same-side.

Okizeme

Alright. You have your opponent knocked down. What do you do? Well, first off, you should refer to the chart at http://wiki.mizuumi.net/w/Melty_Blood/Advanced_Mechanics#Wakeup_Timings. Some people need different delays on some setups. Even if you don’t keep it all in your head, it’s probably worth checking whenever fighting someone you’re not sure about, and especially a quick glance after seeing your opponent’s character at a tourney can’t hurt as a refresher, since Hime has so many ways to knock the opponent down with all three knockdown types:

j.[C], j.236C, Arc Drive, Another Arc Drive, and Last Arc all grant head-first knockdown.
2C grants front knockdown.
Air throw and throw both grant back knockdown.

Midscreen

With the opponent knocked down midscreen you have access to your five-way flight mixup - same side overhead, crossup overhead, same side low, crossup low, landing low. There’s many different ways to set each of these up, but get familiar with your own methods for each. You can even land and rejump instant overhead to really throw them off. There’s a few things worth nothing, though:

j.2[C]/j.3[C] are better ways to land than fastfall when done lower to the ground, because if fastfall isn’t buffered from another action then you will almost certainly get 22A/B upon landing, which is a great way to get hit and lose the match.

2A can be shielded high, which means wakeup standing shield will beat all options except throw if you go for it, so 2B is the normal of choice to establish the threat even though it is slower and easier to see. get comfortable with finding strange ways to go for landing that don’t make it clear that’s what you’re going for, getting as low as you can still do overheads from before you go for your landing normal. Drifting forward j.B can hit even if done very low to the ground (remember that it needs to be input as j.3B to avoid getting j.6B). Once they’ve figured out wakeup shield as an option has poor risk-reward, you can mix in some 2As.

Your meaty overhead options can all be safejumps if timed well. Being on the ground as fast as possible also helps you deal with wakeup backdash and dodge, too; by holding [1] as j.[B] is going active to block DPs and then hitting 2B in time with your expected landing, 2B will combo off the j.[B], catch spot dodge recovery, and hit far enough to tag backdashes. Against characters with roll dodges, if you were deep in them with the j.[B] (and there is no reason not to be) they’ll have gotten behind you by the time you input 2B, so you turn around and hit them.

In the defense section it was mentioned that Hime’s quirky knocked down collision box means some characters have weaker mixup against her, and one of those characters… Is Hime. Because you can’t do a low-to-the-ground crossup against her, there’s really no way to do an ambiguous crossup low, and meaty left/rights basically mean you have to hover higher over her than vs most and cross over then come down with j.2[B] if you still to both be able to do them and safejump 623B. Because of this, there’s very little reason to go for midscreen oki vs Hime, and if you have the option to get a corner knockdown instead you should take it.

Corner

Having the opponent cornered means you can’t cross them up, which gives you fewer directions to attack from, but it also means that projectiles don’t push the opponent back, which means you can do your mixup while they’re in blockstun, giving you more ways to go about safely mixing up with those same directions.

After sweeping the opponent and flying, you can drop pillar on their wakeup, and by drifting back before the pillar you can be out of range of meterless reversals and pokes done out of shield. If they get hit by it, you can jump forward into a short air string into air throw or hime kick, while if they block, you have several options.

Float forward j.AB and (if you’re low enough) fastfall 2A can both be done as true blockstrings. Fastfall 2B isn’t a blockstring, but can mess with people trying to standing shield afterward. drift down then drift forward j.B isn’t a blockstring but it can still hit before they can poke and offers an overhead option that can really mess with what the opponent thinks they’re seeing, since straight down movement offers a “fake fastfall” of sorts, turning their reactions against them; drift forward then down j.B gives you a faster overhead > low combination. Air dash j.BC isn’t strictly speaking safe against people mashing out of the pillar, but it offers overheads at different times and interferes with attempts to potentially fuzzy guard some of your overhead into low options. Drifting forward j.A j.[C] throw makes use of the short hitstop on j.A compared to other options to surprise the opponent with how early they can be thrown. And, you can double jump or land and rejump after your low j.B or j.C hits into an f-shiki j.A for one more overhead, going into j.236C.

If they shield the pillar, you are still at advantage, however, you have to recognize the situation and react accordingly. Shielding it still leaves them at -1 compared to you, so there are no guaranteed punishes, and the fastest possible forward drifting j.A you can do hits them on the 5th frame they can act. Since you should be doing shield from outside the range where they can simply jab you, you have advantage against most things they could throw out, and if you believe they’ll read that you can also drift forward with shield and shield counter their poke. j.236C costs meter, but it beats anything they could do except reshield. There are numerous further mindgames that could be at play, but you’re more or less still at advantage, and you always have the option to fastfall dp if you really want to shut them down. Of course, since F and H moons have drastically fewer options out of shield, you’re pretty well off if shielded. You should be able to weave around shield counter fairly easily.

Another option to force them to block is 22A. By cancelling sweep into 22A with good timing, you can have one spark hit them as they get up. This offers all the same options on block, however because you can take actions before they’ve recovered, you have a few more plays to make, including shielding wakeup EX reversals or going for fastfall rejump instant overhead with relative safety, and shielding it becomes a much less attractive option. It does, however, come with some downsides: Since you’re right next to the opponent, meterless reversals through the light are going to hit you if you go for most mixup, and while you can bait them by drifting or with fastfall blocking, that’s not the passive shutdown you get from pillar. It’s also more sensitive to enemy wakeup timing, needing delay against people with longer front knockdown times. And, perhaps most severely, only having one hit, with shorter untech time, means you can’t react to it hitting and go for a combo; you can only really go into j.236C, so without meter on deck they can mostly get out by intentionally getting hit by it and accepting the weak followup. But even with these downsides, the different timing and how it can throw off people used to defending against pillar can make it worth doing sometimes.

And if you’re particularly frustrated by their ability to deal with your corner oki, you can also just go for safejump overheads / landing lows / throws without a cover, the same as you would midscreen, and deny them any chance at a cheeky way out.

Another way you might get corner oki is off of corner throw. After a throw, buffered flight into buffered fastfall puts you at +3 vs characters with the fastest back wakeup times, meaning they need to have a 4 frame jab and better timing than yours to poke out of 2A; in this situation, the fastfall 2A part takes 17 frames to animate, which is very difficult to react to on its own but becomes extra unlikely given the other mixups option here is drifting down overhead, which safejumps 5f reversals from fastest wakeup people and drifting down then forward j.AB. If the threat of faster reversals doesn’t sit well with you, you can also get more conventional oki by doing throw, 2C, fly cancel; of course, they could tech the 2C, but if you didn’t fly cancel the 2C you can get big damage off of a tech trap. And if you walk back slightly before 2C and use 22C, then you can get superior mixup while also catching techs.

Tech Traps

Sometimes, often after a far j.236C punish, you won’t be in a situation to really go for flight oki But you can still get pressure by dashing up, and 2C can catch techs pretty well. Because it has 6 active frames, 2C can actually be timed within a 2 frame window to catch forward, back, and neutral tech. If they don’t tech, you get pressure, and if you’re close enough then you can fly cancel and get the same mixup as if you had a sweep or arc drive ender.

There are actually also air tech traps that you can do. If you notice your opponent reducing damage consistently against your corner stuff, you can use that against them by cutting a corner combo short something into pillar that won’t combo into it, and then as you see your opponent neutral or back tech, going for hime kick. Because hime kick is air unblockable, this traps them into a reset, and while it’s shieldable, they’d have to have already shielded the pillar - and if the hime kick super flash is while they’re in tech inv, before the pillar hits them, the exact 2 frame window to shield the pillar could be anywhere in the eight frames after the flash but before the hit, making it fantastically difficult to do so with any kind of consistency.

Of course, they can escape this sort of setup if they delay tech or forward tech, but if done low to the ground the delay tech won’t happen because they’ll have landed and you won’t waste the meter for seeing the non-forward tech and inputting as they invuln’d entirely through the pillar, and forward tech is vulnerable to other setups involving ex pillar, which can hit them during their forward air tech vulnerability period - and if they teched a different way, since you can act after ex pillar if flying and it is quite plus, you can turn a blocked ex pillar into an air throw setup, among other options.

Full-Moon Mechanics

Aside from just benefiting from her incredible shield counter, F-Hime has many ways to take advantage of the fact that she’s an F-Moon character for her neutral play. The use of meter charge to bait the opponent into approaching you has been touched on, but the ability to charge your meter during downtime, to just grab a quick 6.49% when you don’t feel like committing to another action, can’t be understated. Pushing yourself into MAX by meter charging after a throw or other time you’re under no particular threat but also don’t have an overwhelming advantage to press can lead to serious reversals of fortune once you’ve regained all your red health with initiative heat or blood heat - and doing this at neutral can have your opponent panicking to get to you before it’s too late, only to fall right into your waiting hitboxes. Because of this, Hime’s kind of low life can be offset with attentive play as long as you don’t just get rolled over.

Even so, if you aren’t really looking for its specific tools, then being in MAX isn’t something you’ll always want; you get to do up to two EXs in it, but because you’re F-Moon, it drops you to 100% after that, meaning you won’t always get to use your meter as efficiently as possible. Because of that, and in order to stay close to conditions where you can threaten to build into MAX mid-combo to threaten blood heat arc drive, it’s often going to be important to shed meter when you’re nearing MAX. In neutral, 22C is a very non-committal way to do this; The opponent definitely doesn’t want to block it and so will probably take to the sky, giving you chances at working your anti-air game in conditions that make it hard for them to just land arbitrarily. If they do block it, you have free pressure and mixup; for this reason if you can force it while you’re in the mid 200s, such as after throw, it’s a good thing to do. If you already have pressure, you can work 22A/B 214C traps more readily and throw in instant overhead j.6Bs as you please, and there is of course using j.236C for full- screen punishes. Lastly, there is of course Hime Kick, which lets you get superior knockdowns without sacrificing damage; It’s generally best to do that while early in MAX to go into arc drive for the meter drain on top, but if you can’t quite get there then any time you can Hime Kick and still have 100 meter left over you’re in a pretty good position.

When you do get into MAX without comboing the opponent, you might just throw out some 22Cs or whatever to get back to normal metergain, but you have some extra options if you’re willing to part with your meter entirely. You never want it to be how things play out, but if you hit MAX while pressured or being comboed you gain blood heat activate as a defensive tool; it’s hard for most characters to bait it in the same action as baiting your DP, so it’s good. Hime’s heat activate is quite large, so you can also use it in your pressure as an unblockable, which makes them either have to air tech into an unfavorable position or directly take a knockdown into mixup. By the same token, being in MAX lets you confirm arc drive from throw, both as a defensive and an offensive option. But of course, the most flexible option for an F-Moon character in heat is Initiative Heat, and Hime in particular is very adept at using it.

With the exception of j.6[B], anything you can cancel to flight or an EX move you can cancel to IH, under the same conditions. This offers tons of things to do if you find yourself in max and want the lifegain; IH canceling 214A while it’s moving can set up a throw into arc drive, IH canceling 22X as you see the opponent go to punish it lets you block and confirm light hitting them into arc drive, IH canceling 236B after the opponent blocks it lets you just do another one to beat their expected punish, and then (of course) go into arc drive. And if you’re in the middle of a combo and just want to go into arc drive, when you’re too late in MAX, you can IH the move you were going to cancel into arc drive and immediately do arc drive out of it to tack on some lifegain on top.

IH also does something strange for Hime beyond just giving her pressure and confirms, if you IH something in the air, Hime gains a normal character’s gravity until she hits the ground. This has implications. For one, it’s why the instant overhead j.B IH j.AB string works. And if you’re being pressured and really need a way out, then air dashing and IH canceling a whiffed air normal will certainly let you land faster than the opponent expects you to, and if you keep an eye for the ‘reduce’ text popping up, you can hitconfirm any stray pillar hit into initiative heat to instantly hit the ground so that you can go into - you guessed it - arc drive. And speaking of pillar, you can also IH that on block to suddenly be on the ground while they have plenty of blockstun left. The heat background change is obvious enough that an attentive opponent will know to shift their guard low early, but someone who doesn’t know to expect it probably won’t, and even if they do you can go for rejump instant overheads or all manner of other grime.

One might say the sky’s the limit, but let’s be real; this is a character who can sometimes air tech high in the air and go into flight to just hang out so high up there the camera can’t track her anymore. The sky is not a limiting factor for her.

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